Anyone else here see the midnight premier?
Unfortunately, no, I had to work this morning. :-\
But looking forward to seeing it this weekend! (And to hearing the thoughts of those who have seen it.)
Hmm… I think should get a spoiler tag for conversations like this.
My favorite part was when Bane said “Giber de fliberty bit Batman”
Then Batman was all, like “hurgh gurgh burgh burgh BURGH!”
And Commissioner Gordon and Blake were all “I can’t hear you over all of the Zimmer horns! Yell louder!” to each other.
Seriously, though. It was an enjoyable film. I really will appreciate when it’s out on DVD and I can get some subtitles, though.
I laughed. ;D
Seriously though, having an accent and a crazy mask thing makes him way more difficult to understand than I expected.
To me he sounded like Sean Connery from the old SNL Celebrity Jeopardy sketches.
I did the ultimate and went to a back to back to back screening of all films from 6:30pm Thurs - 3am Fri (and then went to work). It was completely worth it.
Just got back from watching it, excellent film.
I did have trouble hearing things… but not from Bane, I missed 2 lines from Gary Oldman (and I went to grab the place where my remote would be to rewind and listen again… D’oh!).
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I kind of wish he’d stayed dead, though my wife (unsurprisingly) disagrees. That moment had a huge emotional impact and then was nullified five minutes later, which is weaksauce. They obviously wanted to end the movie with a tiny bit of hope for the future after the bleakness that was most of the rest of the movie, but I’d argue that that Robin in the cave and the home for orphan boys fulfilled that requirement. Undoing the greatest sacrifice Batman could have made for his city removed some of the emotional heft of the movie IMO.
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Doing so would have left Alfred a broken man, and you can’t do that to Michael Caine!
Also, it showed that after all that happened, Bruce FINALLY learned how to move on and just have a life. Considering how he never really had one, he deserved it.
I thought the movie was great. Also, spoilers in in the topic title specifically so we could discuss the movie. You don’t need to mark them every post.
Yeah after the big explosion in the end my wife was all teary I leaned over to her and said “remember, pics or it didn’t happen”.
Mainly I loved this movie, but not as much as I love the first two. Also, spoilers!
I’m with Spiff… I kind of wanted him to stay dead too.
I think his not staying dead made the fact that he could fly the bomb far enough away that the 6-mile blast radius looked like it was a hundred miles away when it went off, without looking like he was flying all that fast even less believable. Also, how did you eject out of the bat plane thing without being seen or getting horrible/disfiguring radiation exposure? This was enough to make my brain do more math than I want to at the end of a good movie (and I was totally comfortable letting them hand-wave all of that completely ridiculously wrong stuff about how stock markets work and how Boards work with Wayne Enterprises and his bankruptcy… ok not completely comfortable, but it only pulled me out of the movie for a minute and did not make me start calculating things in any way).
Other than that, I loved it. They totally fooled me with the big reveal and I had even heard that she was going to be the villain in this movie (though, that rumor got squashed pretty well early on). I loved that they brought Cillian Murphy back too.
There were only a couple of lines that I couldn’t understand from Bane but mainly I thought he sounded a little… off? Like, the voice didn’t match the facial expressions, but then again, you could barley seen any of his face.
I’m reasonably certain that the implication is for Batman to have ejected while the bat was still over the city, when it was flying low and bumping the bomb along the ground, after that he sets the autopilot and it flies true and clear.
I do agree with everyone saying that a heroic sacrifice would have made an excellent ending for the film but generally in films this is only after the hero makes his peace with all his friends/loved ones and that’s not this Batman. The way they framed it I don’t think it was possible to do the heroic sacrifice thing in the film they made without it leaving the other characters empty.
Yeah, but… that emptiness would have been so dramatically fulfilling. So Batman. Because wouldn’t be heroic sacrifice in the Superman/All American Hero sort of way, it would be moody, brooding, self-indulgent sacrifice, Batman sacrifice. And I would have loved it.
I loved it, actually my favorite of the series (Replacing Begins, as I have a number of issues with the Dark Knight - a conversation I’d be glad to have at another time.) I do think they should have ended the movie exactly one shot earlier. Alfred’s at the cafe, he smiles and nods, cut to black. Actually showing Bruce and Selina watered it down. I think we can blame that on studio involvement, Nolan being the filmmaker that he is, I’d bet money it was his intention to leave the ambiguity, but WB is notoriously territorial with their properties, especially Bats and Supes. So it’s completely likely to me that they told him “Sorry, you can’t kill Batman.” I’ll still always view the DCAU as the definitive version of the characters, but all-around great end to a good trilogy.
I remember sitting in the theatre and going “But it’s Bruce. Of course he fixed the damn Auto Pilot”. And I sat there being skeptical all the way until the bomb went off and the grave scene. And then Alfred’s performance sold me. I was sniffling and rubbing my eyes. And then I forgot all of my conviction and sat there stunned.
I saw Tahlia coming. They talked about how Bane got the mask fairly early, but the child very clearly got out without any scars or anything. And then they said the child was the child of Ra’s, and my mind immediately jumped to Tahlia. Thinking on that vein, I focused on the woman who had been pushing Bruce from the beginning to finish the Reactor, as well as the fact that they’d set her up as a love interest (since Tahlia is traditionally an on and off love interest).
Although I think I interpretted the end scene at the cafe differently from everyone else. I did not read it as “He’s learned to move on with his life”. I saw it as “he’s learned to make it his life in a healthier way”. I cannot see him or Selina giving up their alternate lives, but rather learning how to live with them in a healthier way.
That would have been a great way to end it.
Yes - the ambiguity would have been so much more emotionally fulfilling and way more Nolan’s style (Inception much?).
I thought the end of the movie was perfect. First off, everything in the movie foreshadowed or hinted at the Batman “giving everything” to Gotham, i.e. his life. So if he had, we all would have been, “That was obvious” and as mentioned before, we know that’s not Nolan’s style. so it would have just been an awkward ending.
Secondly, I love the ending because, as a long time Batman fan, he did what Batman has never done. He exorcised his demons. One of Batman’s problems is that he is pretty one dimensional in that area. He learns things and has changed in other areas over time, but every future Batman I have seen is always an Older version of… well… Batman. Whether it Be Kingdom Come or The Dark Knight, he never defeats the most important villain, the Batman. So, too me, this was Nolan putting forth a Batman who finally knows when to quit. I am probably odd in that the scene that teared me up was seeing a Bruce Wayne who you knew was going to make it at the end. I much prefer that ending to one where you don’t know.
Anyway else think it was hilarious that the only one who dosen’t know Bruce is alive is Commisioner Gordon? I loved the coat comment before he took off for the last time. That was a great reveal for Gordon.
And my only nitpick in the movie. Why, in all that is holy, would Talia sleep with Bruce Wayne. Based on this Movie’s mythology she hates his guts. He has already entrusted her with Wayne enterprises, shown her the reactor, and she has everything she needs for her plot. At that point, she could have been nice to him but did not have to sleep with someone she reportedly detests. Looking back on it, I can only think that it was to lull the audience into trusting her more because Bruce already trusted her completely. You could argue that it was part of her plan to make him trust her after bain takes control, but she was not expecting him to be there. She planned for him to be in the pit. So, I was baffled and annoyed. Sure, it makes the betrayal that much worse, but that’s a movie trick as internally she never expected him to be there. So I thought it was lame.