Final Dive + Increase Damage

Final Dive says something along the lines of destroy a creature with 5 or less HP. Fanatic deals a target damage equal to the destroyed targets HP.

I’m sorry, but I don’t have the card in front of me, so the wording is exact.

If Fanatic gets a damage boost from Legacy’s power card, does she do X + 1? Final Dive says “FANATIC deals damage…”.

Can someone clarify this please?

Yes.

Yes. She still can’t destroy a target with more than 4 hp with the card, but then the damage dealt would be ‘destroyed card’s hp + 1’.

Thanks for the update!

Soemthing that came up in a game last night - does this work if the first target is indestructible? My boyfriend wanted to Final Dive Kismet's Talisman into Kismet, but I wasn't sure if we could allow it or not. To be on the safe side, we played something else anyway, but I thought I'd ask.

 

I guess in general, it depends on whether the second part of Final Dive is depenent on the first target being destroyed. My gut feeling says that it isn't, but I wasn't going to jeopardise our win status by doing damage in a way that I wasn't 100% sure was legit.

It doesn't work on indestructible cards, as the card isn't destroyed and it states that it deals damage based on the HP of the destroyed card. Also Talisman is a character card and couldn't be used on it anyways.

Thanks, that's pretty much what I was thinking.

 

I really wish that character cards actually had "character" printed on them, because I'm always forgetting about that. There's nothing about Talisman that would make me think it's a character card - it just looks some sort of object. I know it flips and all, but still. Not terribly intuitive.

 

I forgot where it was mentione but I think they mentioned any card that has a flip side is considered a character card.

Characters flip. Targets have HP.

Yeah, it's probably hidden in the glossary or something. Which of course I only skimmed, since "character card" seems like a concept you wouldn't have to look up. It's a card representing a character, right?

Well, wrong. Some cards representing characters aren't character cards and apparently some character cards don't represent an actual character, per se.

It's just not what you'd intuitively expect, and thus it's hard to remember. How can you think of the Talisman as a "character" when (as far as I can see) it's just an object?

Character cards have HP too though.

There was a time when you didn't. Then new decks came out which complicated things. 

So far, yes, all character cars have HP, though some of them don't have HP on both sides. In fact, most don't. None of the heroes do, none of the Ennead do, and neither do The Chairman, The Operative, or Miss Information. Will there ever be a character card that doesn't have HP on either side? Seems unlikely, but I wouldn't be so very surprised if it happens.

 

Doesn't the Chairman have HP on both sides, he's just immune to damage on one?

Correct.

 

Indeed. Good catch.

Ah, this brings back my Rook City playtesting days when the Chairman didn’t have HP on one side, and Spite had a maximum HP of 250 (starting at 80 HP).

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I thought he started at 60?

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