Final Wasteland

I don't disagree with that, but that doesn't really address my point. My point is that there isn't a lot of narrative information about Spite and Wriath's relationship outside of being in the same city. Yes, Spite is a crazy, dangerous person. But all of the reasons for him and Wraith to be nemesis could apply to any other hero. In the Apostate write up we know that he challenges Fanatic's faith and makes her doubt herself. That's interesting and compelling. All I have for Spite and Wraith is that one's a good guy, one's a bad guy and they're in the same place so they're going to fight now. You could transplant Spite somewhere else and give him another nemesis without really changing the overall narrative because fighting a guy because he's scary and murders people is a good enough justification for any hero to hate him with a fiery passion. I'm not saying Spite is a bad villain or that there's no reason for a rivalry. I just think that compared to other rivalries like Apostate and Fanatic and Legacy and Baron Blade, it's a little weak and requires me to fill in a lot of blanks.

It's totally fair to say that there isn't a particularly compelling personal relationship between Spite and Wraith presented in the fiction. Unless I'm missing something again, there's no explicit connection in either of their bios.

On the other hand he's a clear fit thematically. Setting aside the Batman parallels, as a super-powered serial killer he's clearly a big target for a vigilante fighter like Wraith. If there were actually comics for this universe, he would be a perfect fit for her books both in scope and in theme. Would it be nice to have a specific nod to Wraith in Spite's bio? Definitely. But I still agree with the choice to pair them up, and generally I don't really think that it should be necessary to have a personal grudge to be nemeses.

I can agree with that, and you can probably apply that answer to Chrono Ranger and Plague Rat. Just bringing that up since it was the original subject of this thread.

Haha oops. I'm bad at going on tangents in threads when the conversation spins off into another interesting direction. ^^;

I've been in many table top RPGs with way worse tangents. At least you can apply this one to the original topic.

you keep assuming the Nemesis relation is necessarily about hate. In the case of CR/PR, it's the simple fact that it's basically CR's job to hunt down cryptids like PR. It's actually very much like the Ambuscade/Haka nemesis relation, both in the reason and the one-sidedness of the relation. I actually expect other monsters with a CR nemesis icon.

 

In the end, all a nemesis icon means is `this fight will happen in the comic universe'. It's an indication of canon more than anything else.

I can see that point of view, and accept it.