Doctor Who, a popular UK made Science Fiction program about Time Travel, 50th Anniversary in November!
I know the show. I am unfamiliar what "who-ism" means, besides having some loose connection and reference to said show.
A who-ism is a concept or saying that was popularized (if not created) by the show.
In this case, the concept of an event, outcome, decision, or moment that must ALWAYS happen, and can never be altered or prevented was created on the show, and given the name "Fixed point". It was then featured in multiple plot lines, and gradually moved into general time travel lexicons.
I wasn't talking about fixed point being something that MUST and ALWAYS happen though. Just that there is a single event that happens to be the exact same in every timeline. Back to bioshock, the fixed point in time can be altered, but it is at that point where everything and all other possibilities branches out from. The alteration of that fixed point basically destroys the possibility of certain timelines from ever happening in any branch timeline moving forward. Again, I am not as familiar with the good Doctor, so if it is in fact similar, I appologize.
Legacy has his own "Comstock" moment when Paulina dies. It could be that when Vanessa messed with her child self that she might have tampered with the "fixed point" and sent everything else after it into realm of total uncertainty (assuming of course that the art for the card Fixed Point holds significance to the event, which is debatable I guess).
Was not created by Dr. Who, but it was popularized by the show. The actual term I don't think was used till the new seires.
It derives from mathmatics and has been applied to time in a good number of old Sci-fi worlds.
In Sentinels it is a point acoss all timelines that must occur.
Also looking at Vanessa Long's bio again (due to the fixed point being based on her) I don't think she comes from Iron Legacy's timeline at all, unless someone defeats Iron Legacy and America has fallen into chaos by her time. It would have to happen before the Cataclysm took place, since Vanessa travels pre-cataclysm.
String theory has the notion of a fixed point in time no?
It says she fought alongside the Freedom 6. Could there be multiple versions of the F6 throughout all the timelines? Sure. But the only Freedom 6 we know of was specifically formed out of the need to combat Iron Legacy. China has such a massive influence in that timeline and it comes as no surprise since Legacy is no more America's defender.
Also, the visionary specifically references remembering Legacy as a much angrier person, with the card depicting Iron Legacy.
Precognition also pictures heros like Haka in chains. There is more than ample evidence that Vanessa is originally of the IL timeline.
Actually this one if from another 'nother time line, in which Voss has taken over Earth.
Ah thats right. Thanks.
Another timeline though? Maybe that is still to come in the current timeline…
Look at Mistbound. Voss screams that he will be back. Then you have the Voss statue shown in that one card with the Cosmic Entity and Akash's eyes and both Legacy deaths. And a Thorian hero (presumably) on its way.
Doubtful, I think NightMist probably put him away for good with her Mistbound. [REDACTED (see below)]. Also, bringing up Sentinel Tactics again, they mentioned Dawn, Omnitron, and Blade being already made for it. Why would they only do 3 of the 4 villains from the base set? Especially someone so minion based that would sound excellent for it. Because he is gone for good, because NightMist say the possible future, the same as Visionary, but decided to act upon it, to ensure Voss will not complete world conquest.
[Ronway, my apologies if I'm misremembering, but I think you revealed something there that hasn't been generally revealed yet. – Andy]
Perhaps I should direct you to this photo?
There are two expansions to go Ronway. To think Voss will not make one last grandstand (especially with a possible Thorian hero coming and a cosmic spacey theme left to explore) is a bit premature. We have yet to see the last of him.
I didnt see the edit, but I am assuming this has to do with Vyktor being shown in that picture (above the I in Sentinels)?
My big problem with Visionary coming from IL timeline is timing.
Iron Legacy is going around killing supervillains.
In Venessa's timeline Super Villains are blamed for the loss of her side.
Iron Legacy is 18 years older than Finest Legacy.
2018 Venessa goes back in time, her cause already lost.
For this to work the original timing of Legacy being 47 has to be before 2000, or Iron Legacy is around when his side falls, Venessa fighting on his side, or Iron Legacy is the head of the Pan-Asian People's Republic.
I don't see any of those as being likely. Perhaps I'm missing something.
And don't forget we have two Visionarys traveling back in time in the one body, it's possible that the hitchhiker does come from IL's timeline and the memories of both are scrambled together, hence why she remembers him being angrier.
To think Voss will make one last grandstand (especially when relying on a Cher song and Voss' deck has already been released, and no villain will get 2 decks) is a bit premature.
Now unless Bunker has becamea super villain, I think Iron Legacy being up to the knee caps in Tyler Vance's face would beg to differ.
As mentioned previously, going knee deep in a hero's face, may give you the title of Super Villain to others. But hey, that's just me.
Considering that earlier 2000s is when the experiment project began, means that the time lines up just about right. Considered 6 years after that is when Dreamer is 6, and Legacy is depicted fighting with her projections.
The timeline works out fine. She was a child during the time Paulina woulda been killed. If thats the point where Legacy turns to IL, then Vanessa being 17-18 years old when she made the jump makes perfect sense as the IL we are introduced to is that much more older than the Legacy we know.
Her bio says the US was torn up by super power criminal activity. Doesnt say "super villains". Depending on who you are, like the Freedom 6, you might very well consider what Iron Legacy is doing as "super powered" activity that is "criminal" in nature. Its misleading sure, but it was an early bio that couldnt give away too much. Without Legacy protecting America's interest and serving as its moral and ethical compass, It was probably ripe for the taking by other countries.
Umm…Cosmic Omnitron? Whats this nonsense about needing two decks? The Cher bit was funny though.
Even if Voss manages to get a set of promo villain character cards, I suspect they will be of Voss prior to NightMist mistbinding him.