New Promo Heroes/Villains

I'm just glad we're finally getting promos for characters outside of the core set, with the exception of Unity. I will admit though that it's weird that we're getting a promo of Setback before he's actually released.

 

Like a few other guys here I have everything bar the errata pack, so to get these promos I'm looking at $40 international shipping. A cheaper option there would be amazing!

A bit of a cheeky suggestion, but I'd happily pay for something now (say, the Errata pack and / or Mr Chomps) and have you guys hang onto these, and the December promos, until February when Vengeance goes out and they can be thrown in with the rest of the KS order. Would involve a bit of messing about on your side I know, but would save me paying postage twice within the space of a few months....

 

The EE doesn't count.  Fixer and Expat are both from the same expansion set, and consist of the totality of that set's hero component.  If RC had contained a half-dozen gritty street-level heroes, it wouldn't have bothered me to see two of them dropped into Darkwatch (whether Expat and Fixer would have been the best two such choices is another story, but since I'm not speculating who the other heroes might be, the point is moot).  I just think it's weird to have had them already lumped together by accident of publication order, and then put them into a team - it seems forced.  Core status, however, is more than a vagary of printing…it signifies that the heroes in the core set are considered most central to SOTM, having a favored status which justifies their special treatment.

Yet you have no issue with that?

I don't know if the Multiverse page changed back when IR came out, but as of today, Fanatic's page lists Prime Wardens affiliation, while Fixer's page does not list Dark Watch affiliation.  I have every reason to assume that Fanatic was a Prime Warden all along, but there is evidence to the contrary in Fixer's case.

Also Prime Wardens wasn't made with most new heroes.

And the same is true of Darkwatch.  The characters aren't core, but they aren't new either.

I'm curious as to what the logic to this is. You would rather exclude a Dark and Gritty hero from a Dark and Gritty super hero team, to add in a hero that is neither Dark or Gritty?

We don't know exactly what the Dark Watch's theme is; if Nightmist fits, Ra might too.  Putting a sun god into a team with "Dark" in the name is a strange idea, but I thought it might be fitting by way of its very contrariness - Ra might conceptualize it as his "passage through the underworld", or see himself as bringing light (and fire) to the darkness.  Still, I admit he's not exceptionally fitting…I just picked him because I wanted a core-set hero who wasn't FV or PW, and the only other choice is Visionary, who feels to me rather as though she shouldn't ever be in a team for thematic reasons (even though I did dream up a team that included her).

Fanatic, Haka and Tempest were not originally listed as Prime Wardens. That affiliation was added later on. The idea that hero teams should be based on who was released in which expansion, rather than on character or the plot of the Multiverse, also seems rather strange to me; plus, it does make sense that the heroes from the 'dark and gritty' expansion would both be in the 'dark and gritty' hero team...

How much will a padded envelope to Singapore cost?

This is a fantastic holiday deal you are doing. Very awesome and very cool.

I do have a question about the errata pack: does it just come with those 4 cards? or does it come with multiple copies of each of those cards to allow us to replace the multiples in our decks.

I am planning to order the errata pack, the box and possibly get the raptor bot too!

Thanks so much. 

 

If Fixer and Ex-Pat are going to team up with anyone, it makes the most sense to team up with each other. They both live in Rook City and neither one has the ability to travel around the world at incredible speeds. Wraith has to divide her time between Rook City and her duty as a member of the Freedom Five, so I imagine there would be no permanent team up with her and the other Rook City renegades. As for Argent and Nightmist, neither one is restricted by geography, and so they're pretty much free to team up with whoever they want, and this is true with CR and Omni-X. I think it would be cool though if Omni and CR teamed up and became a bad ass time travelling duo. They could adopt Thiago and become the Time Squad.

Is it possible to obtain more than one copy of the promos?  I have a friend who doesn't Internet.

You could make two separate orders yourself and get two sets of promos, then get your friend to pay you back. I assume he'd need the errata pack as much as anybody else.

Not the most effieicnt option, I know, but it is probably the simplest.

Expat and fixer have worked beautifully together from the beginning, they are incredibly complimentary (more exclusively so than most hero pairings), that they came out in the same set makes sense, and that they would be in the same team makes sense.

Nightmist fits because she is a gritty and dark character to begin with.  She was investigating cults as a private investigator before she had powers, she wasn't writing papers to get grants and teaching classes.

Setbck isn't as clean of a fit, but I like his base power, and now we know he has some kind of token pool, so that is something.

Setback's inclusion in Dark Watch reminds me somewhat of what Marvel did with Speedball at the start of the Civil War storyline.  Speedball's carelessness led to a massive civilian tragedy and he reshaped his superheroic identity to become Penance, even wearing a suit that inflicted minor wounds on himself to remind himself of the casualties he was responsible for.

It makes me wonder if Setback's "bad luck powers" didn't eventually catch up with him, causing him to take on a somewhat darker outlook, leave the F5, and take up with a group more suited to his grimmer views.  It would also explain why Setback's new base power (not that I know his main power--I'm not a playtester) is focused on defending his allies.  It could be showing a more defensive, more conscientous Setback, rather than the happy-go-unlucky chap who tried out for the Freedom Five.

On another thread (maybe on BGG?) they clarified that it comes with sufficient copies to upgrade the decks.

I just thought of something I'd confirm about Expat's new aim ability. If used out of turn after she's already activated it it would be a +2 boost until the end of another turn wouldn't it. You could potentially set up a massive damage boost for hair-trigger reflexes with Legacy, Expat, and someone like AA... 

Wait, if Bitter Strike counts as Strike, does that mean Golem Unity counts as a Golem for Inspired Repair?

I will also point out that if she unloads two turns in a row (or Aim one turn and then Unloads the following), that second unload would allow her to get +2 to her damage. With Speed Loading in play, she could even get Shock Rounds onto one of the guns. I would say that would be one painful turn…

Ayup. Looks that way.

I don't think they will change their stance on that. Plus Inspired Repair Mechanical Golems, not just Golems. Which isn't even listed on her character card, aside from her power called "Golem-Spawn", which isn't really calling her a golem.

@Paul

If I order the errata pack now, will it also include the minor changes with RC as well? Geez, I have the original printing of RC, so the cards are not even the same size are they? Bah humbug. 

I do have a question about the errata pack: does it just come with those 4 cards? or does it come with multiple copies of each of those cards to allow us to replace the multiples in our decks.

It comes with sufficient copies to replaces the multiples in your decks!

 

Paul has already said that there will not be a RC errata pack because of the difference in size.

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