Suspension of disbelief and comic book storylines

Dang, did someone just cut and move this entire section of a thread… I didn't know that was possible…

 

Suddenly a little more fearful of mods and admins :neutral_face:

Yes. The Admins now have the ability to split threads. :sunglasses:

If a thread strays far afield, the Admins can pull it apart. (When Mods see something that needs it, they'll send a request to the Admins.) Unfortunately, we can't do anything complex, like pulling apart two mingled topics, so we'll have to quickly determine if it's going to go far afield early on, before on-topic posts are made.

Testing new waters here, folks. We'll see how this plays out…

I approve greatly.

GTG Forum: Shattered Topics.

Boy, this sure is a fun card game, huh?
(Nervously trying to change the subject…)

It's FUN?!?!  Gaaaaah!! I haven't gotten mine! Couldn't you at least have tagged it with a Spoiler Alert!! 

;-P

…Interesting.

Trying to change the subject, huh...

You guys hear about Pluto?

That's messed up, right?

I find the oft-tossed about faux-explanation "because: comics" to be lazy. Most everything that happens in comics can be explained within the internal continuity of the comics. Yes, you have a healthy amount of suspensions of disbelief - you've got super powered people fighting aliens and time-travelers, but everything has a REASON that it's happening that fits the internal logic and rules of the comics world.

Yes, there are many comics, including many mainstream titles, which play more fast and loose. But a lot of comic authors do have thought out explanations for everything happening in their stories. 

I certainly do.

Just because YOU don't know the reason something is happening, doesn't mean there isn't a well-considered reason that just hasn't been revealed yet.

And there is a LOT that hasn't been revealed yet.

WHO IS CON

COOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN!!! </Shatner Voice>

 

Ha!

 

True, but why don't we hear 'because movies'? It's not like movies have such a great track record of internal consistency. My understanding on 'because comics' is that since thing are being drawn instead of being shown, it is easier to put impossible things in to the frame. In other words, I thought that 'because comics' was less about plot and more about physics.

Well said, and thank you.

So, any suggestions on Omnitron / Realm of Discord (DOES NOT COMPUTE), Matriarch / Ruins of Atlantis (scuba-birds?), Chairman / Tomb of Atlantis (where did the Informant find a phone?), Citizen Dawn / Time Cataclysm ("Now is OUR time!" "Uh, when exactly?"), or similarly weird matches?  (Time Cataclysm in general doesn't really work for me, since there's neither a sense of the battle happening in one place nor a really strong "hopscotching through time" vibe…the only villains I've really liked for that one are Akash'bhuta, where it reinforces the sense of her immensity, and Plague Rat, where I imagine it as Chrono-Ranger hunting him through all of time and space.)  For that matter, Chairman is the villain that gives me the most problems, and Chairman / Time Cataclysm is particularly thorny…how can he keep his Crooked Cops on the take when Payday keeps changing from tomorrow to yesterday?

That's the way I feel as well.  What really bothers me is when a long-running comic book (or any story) violates its own internal consistency.  For instance, Star Trek has pretty hard sci-fi-entific explanations for most of its stuff, so if, for instance, Odin appeared and started doing magical stuff, it would completely violate the show's established internal consistency.  I mean, it's fine if you explain that it was really Q later, but without further explanation, it would just be wrong.  Thus, I'm willing to suspend any amount of disbelief required as long as its consistent with what's been established.  Another great example to me was Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.  All the wire-fu worked perfect in that movie because that's the kind of movie it was, but if Jet Li had started doing that in Lethal Weapon 4, I would have turned it off and walked away.  Like Christopher said, if something like that happens, and the only explanation is "because: comics", that's just lazy.

 

I think the problem that commonly arises in comic books is that comic books, with some degree of frequency, change writers.  A new writer comes along, and thus, a new internal consistency is born.  As a reader, you have to decide if you like the new consistency or if it's too much.  There was a similar discussion just recently in another thread about Davies vs. Moffat writing Doctor Who.  For some people, Moffat was too drastic a change, and for others, it was just another writer change, and they rolled with the punches.  The best we can hope for is that when authors/writers trade off, we get some sort of transition period where the consistency morphs, intsead of an abrupt cut-off, where suddenly all the dead stand up and resume their normal lives like nothing happened, and it's "because: comics".

But what if it was Apollo instead?

I think the problem that commonly arises in comic books is that comic books, with some degree of frequency, change writers.  A new writer comes along, and thus, a new internal consistency is born.

Agreed.  And then usually the next writer inherits both sets of continuity and has to try to make sense of them.

Heh, funny, I wasn't aware of that episode.  I should have said Star Trek: Next Generation.  I'm not nearly as familiar with the original series Star Trek.

COOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN!!! </Quinto Voice>

To Answer who Con is, we must first determine who Con isn't.

Con is not Haka.

Now that that question is resolved, we can move on to more pressing Matters.

Like who is in the Hippo Suit?

My guess is a Parson's cousin who is upset they don't have powers, and likes Hippos.

Thats exactly what Christopher would want you to think