The Sorting Hat for Heroes

Sorting the heroes of the multiverse into Hogwarts houses... go!

I'll start with the F5

Legacy - Hufflepuff (Brave and tough, yes, but he's more about helping out his team)

Tachyon - Ravenclaw (can't stop thinking and tinkering)

Bunker & Absolute Zero - Gryffindor (strap into a dangerous, hard to control hunk of junk just to fight things, sure!)

Wraith - Slytherin (It's all about collecting the best toys and making a name others will fear)

Let the arguing begin!

Guise is part of all the houses

You'd probably have to put Omni-X in Slytherin. All the Villains are in Slytherin including Villain Omni. House dinners are awkward.

Gryffindor always struck me as the house that is awesome because it is the house that has been deemed awesome by the author, rather than because it's actually awesome.

It's totally the Mary Sue of houses.

Gryffindor is the house of being important to the plot. It's basically Hogwart's Greendale Seven.

I think Bunker would actually be in Ravenclaw. He is, afterall, the tactician of the Freedom Five.

I would put Absolute Zero in Slytherin. He didn't choose that suit and it takes him a very long time to accept it. 

I'd put Wraith in Gryffindor. Admittedly, she comes at you from the shadows, but think about it -- no super powers, just the guts to go out and do what is right.

I see where you're coming w/ putting Legacy in Hufflepuff, but I think Gryffindor fits better. He's still a leader, not just a consensus builder. He motivates. And he leads from the front.

Tachyon in Ravenclaw I agree with, though she's kind of the Hermione of the group, so she could probably be in Gryffindor as well.

I'd put Haka in Hufflepuff. Kindergarten teacher!

Fanatic goes in Gryffindor. Possibly even Slitherin. Righteous anger, ya know.

Visionary goes in Ravenclaw, though Dark Visionary is clearly Slitherin.

Tempest is probably Gryffindor, though a case could be made for Hufflepuff.

I might put Ra in Slitherin, actually. He's rather arrogant.

I reread all the Harry Potter books last year. They are far more annoying than I remembered them to be.

Rowling is an author who seems totally obsessed with food, since she pretty much lists each item anyone ever eats for basically no reason at all. If Ron's telling Hermione something important over dinner I don't care in the slightest whether he's stuffing his face with mashed potatoes or steak and kidney pudding. It doesn't add anything.

I kind of want to cross things out in red pen and mark it "irrelevant" and send it back to her. Just tell me the story and shut up about treacle sponge unless the treacle sponge is in some way relevant (spoiler: it isn't).

I've heard some similar grumblings about the Game of Thrones Books. Martin apparently really likes talking about food.

Your food complaints never would fly

when you compare to feasts stacked to the sky

the food lord of them all

is Brian Jacques' Redwall

and his Deeper'n'Ever Turnip'n'Tater'n'Beetroot Pie

 

As for the house of the good Gryffindor

Of course there are biases galore

the books are from Harry's view

(which is quite blinkered too)

and we don't get to see any more.

 

Hufflepuff:

Haka

Legacy

Tempest (Or possibly Gryffindor)

Mr. Fixer

The Argent Adept (or maybe Gryffindor?  Kvothe is certainly a Slytherin)

O-X

The Sentinels

 

Ravenclaw:

Bunker

Tachyon

The Visionary (moves briefly into Slytherin, but then returns)

The Wraith

Nightmist

Parse

Unity

The Scholar

 

Gryffindor:

Fanatic

Expatriette

Chrono-Ranger (although I could see him in Hufflepuff)

KNYFE

The Naturalist

Setback

Captain Cosmic

Sky-Scraper

 

Slytherin:

AZ (Later moves to Hufflepuff)

Ra

Guise

 

The problem with Houses, to me

is that there isn't just one way to be

The way heroes behave

could be smart, loyal, or brave

but it's often a mix of all three.

The classic of course is Enid Blyton. Her children are continually hungry despite gorging themselves constantly and the food consumed is often listed despite it having nothing to do with the story.

It's one of my pet hates in writing, to be honest - those utterly unimportant but lovingly described details. I think that if a description of anything doesn't help define a character, or strengthen a world/setting, or progress the plot, it should be ruthlessly edited out.

But yeah, I reckon the majority of Sentinels heroes would end up in Gryffindor because that's where the people who aren't evil, pathetic, or clever-to-the-exclusion-of-everything-else live. Few of the characters from non-Gryffindor houses are allowed to be anything other than stereotypes of their houses.

Then I would argue that at least some of the food description in Potter you wish were exercised do not meet your criteria, the 'wizarding' foods do add to the world, making it other than what we would experience in everday life.

 

However I think the real interesting point for sorting hat/sentinels nonsense is where do you put the villains? Are they all in Slytherin or are their characters that deserve to be in other houses, Deadline might get sorted into Hufflepuff because his intentions are to help everyone.

 

Also, this video

Harry didn't get a lot of food as a kid - of course he's gonna be thinking about it more once he finally gets to eat whatever he likes at Hogwarts and the books are entirely from his PoV other than the occasional chapter here and there over the course of the series ;).

Also, just because someone isn't very nice doesn't mean they're automatically a Slytherin. The main characteristic of people in that House is ambition, and I'm sure there are plenty of heroes who want to make themselves better (though not necessarily at the cost of others ;)). I once saw descriptions of each House which said that Gryffindors are extroverts ruled by their hearts, Slytherins are extroverts ruled by their heads, Hufflepuffs are introverts ruled by their hearts and Ravenclaws are introverts ruled by their heads.

But ultimately it's the choice of the individual that matters - Hermione was nearly a Ravenclaw, it turns out, and anyone who's read the first book knows that Harry would probably have been a Slytherin if he hadn't asked the Hat not to put him there...though in that case it's possible that the Slytherin thing was due to some...interference. But anyway...I'm not sure I know enough about the specifics of the various Sentinels personalities to determine where they'd go, but Legacy has to be a Gryffindor, surely :D.

Silverleaf, you have to remember these aren't books for adults, these writing shortcuts may be annoying, but they are acceptable.  For kids in school the idea of school sponsored cult of villainy isn't unrealistic, and the books frankly run a Breakfast Club style romp through establishing and then violating their stereotypes.

It's an old trick, but it isn't like she was writing for well read people.

 

Nice description!

My young daughter read the books, then took the Sorting Hat test on the Pottermore site and ended up in Slytherin.  This upset her becasue they're the "bad guy" house, becuase the books are written entirely from Harry's perspective.  I explained to her that being in Slytherin just means you're ambitios and want to leave a lasting mark on the world, not that you're evil.  The books do have a few heroic Slytherins and villianous Gryffindors, not to mention brave Hufflepuffs and dimwitted Ravenclaws. The house relects one part of a character's personality, not all of it.

But yeah, the books have a serious Gryffindor bias.  Gryffindors are brave and noble, but tend not to things through. If Harry had been in Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw, he probably would've consulted with the Professors when bad things started to happen instead of keeping secrets and trying to fix everything himself.  Things might've gone better that way, but it would've made for less interesting stories.

 

Back on topic though, here are some more sorting thoughts:

 

Gryffindor:

Setback (Athletic, heroic, self-sacrificing, and not thinking about consequences - textbook Gryff)

Visionary (for her secret and very personal fight against her own dark side)

Chrono-Ranger (likes fighting alone against ridiculous odds)

 

Ravenclaw:

Expatriette (obsessivly studies weapons tech and the capabilities of heroes & villains)

Parse (the power of knowledge and laser-like focus)

Unity (the other side of Ravenclaw, easily distracted by shiny toys to experiment with)

 

Hufflepuff:

Haka (Full of bluster, but a gentle nice guy at the core)

Mr. Fixer (he'd rather be teaching self-defense, than playing hero)

Scholar (likes to help others, but would rather relax with a drink than fight)

 

Slytherin:

Fanatic (convinced of her own divine right and more concered with victory than the costs to get there)

NightMist (willing to deal with dark powers, and sure she can control them)

The Naturalist (puts his personal goals ahead of society - for the greater good, but that's his opinion)

 

Well I could be misremembering, but apart from pumpkin juice (there's a reason why we don't drink this in the real world) pretty much everything is ordinary unremarkable stereotypically boring British food. It makes the setting seem more mundane, not less. It's like extreme Muggle food, which never really sat well with me. Those house elves could make anything, and if you're cooking via magic you'd think wizards could be a little more adventurous than the ubiquitous meat, potatoes and two veg followed by steamed pudding. They manage to make bouillabaisse when the Beauxbatons lot are there, after all.

Sure, if the usual cuisine is traditional English, tell me they're having a curry if there's some relevant reason for that. Show me that someone's complaining about the lack of vegetables, or is vegetarian, or has a phobia of gravy, or whatever, if it's telling me something about the character or the world.

Rowling's fallen into the trap of thinking that more detail equals more depth.

Well that makes sense, at least. But if you're under enough "I have to save the world/school/myself" stress like Harry is very often, you probably should at least try to stop getting so distracted by mashed potatoes every lunchtime. An evil wizard's trying to kill you, it really doesn't matter whether you had sausages for breakfast.

I'd almost prefer a table at the beginning of every book listing what each character had for every meal (unless it's important to the plot) so then Rowling could just shut up about it.

You can totally write for kids and not be lazy about it.

And it must have been clear to Rowling that her books were being read by adults too, after the first one was published. The publishers certainly knew, what with selling the books with alternative covers in an attempt to stop adults feeling embarrassed when reading them on the train.

 

 

Any sorting that denies The Matriarch her rightful place in Ravenclaw is obviously defective.

(Actually, this may be why she redeems?)

The Matriarch writes bad goth poetry. If she doesn't belong in Slytherin, something is wrong.