The Timelines of the Multiverse

I just don't see a sudden and violent upheaval being a behind the scenes ongoing event.

There's gotta be one thing which actually caused the timelines to shatter, though, one event or action or something which broke everything into pieces and enabled different universes to start leaking into each other.

Sure. But I have very big doubts that the particular event you are talking about is made as a large event in the comics. I think whatever shattered the timelines happened well before our comic continuity begins.

I dunno, I'm not thinking in terms of comics, just as a story in general...

Foote, this is exactly why I wanted to go for a Google Doc approach, so we could all collaborate on the diagram!

I guess my “Shattered Timelines Event” is really the “Iron Legacy Event.” I’ve no objection whatsoever to going in for all the spidery spaghetti we can, to try and trace how all the timelines split and intersect each other. I started in on that with Iron Legacy’s future leading into Visionary. Of course there will be more! I don’t have Miss Information or La Capitan, for instance.

Anybody know a good collaborative platform for a diagram?

Just so you all know, I could very well be wrong here (shocking I know). This is just my best guess.

Well, sure, but maybe we'd have better fidelity if we split the whole "Shattered Timelines" thing into its individual events.

Just trying out an online app...

I don't suppose this link lets anyone edit it immediately?

EDIT: Crap. Google, why won't you let me share the thing? I attached the image.

I think we have seen the event creating the time cataclysm, but then I think the time cataclysm is the overarching event for the entire series. It's called sentinels of the multiverse for a reason.

What's the actual event? I don't know. Pulling the moon towards the Earth? The formation of the Block (but then)can the Block exist without the shattered timelines? So, then maybe tachyon's accident.

The actual event could be the arrival of the cosmic entity.

After all, when messing with time, effect doesn't always follow cause.

Don't forget that The Visionary travels back to before she was born, which may be before The Freedom Four was even formed.

When Vanessa Long transported herself backwards in time, her first goal was to save the not-yet-born version of herself. She managed to get her parents out of the clutches of Project Cocoon and kept an eye on the family. When Vanessa Long was born, The Visionary was relieved that it was without an explosion of psychic energy, and that the baby seemed to be normal in all ways.

Good call, thanks!

Visionary's path back is fixed.

We don't know that Omintron X comes from the "core" timeline, particularly when he doesn't remember seeing inside Omnitron IV.

 

I am yet to be convinced that The Visionary comes from the same timeline as the Iron Legacy who busts back into the "core" timeline, sounds like she comes from a timeline where Legacy was more violent, but she doesn't say anything about him ruling the world or of Young Legacy dying.

I’m thinking of both the quote and art on…um, blanking on the name, but Precognition for the environment. While the quote might be ambiguous, it depicts Iron Legacy clearly. There are some other clues around, too, like Visionary’s backstory mentioning the fall of the United States.

As fir things we don’t know for sure, consider me to be suggesting and documenting a hypothesis. Can you edit the image? You’re welcome to.

Prophetic Vision is the card name you're thinking of.

 

And I agree, that The Visionary's background sounds like an Iron Legacy might have risen to power, but it's also possible that it's not OUR Iron Legacy, or indeed an Iron Legacy at all, it could just be repeatedly-being-tricked-out-of-lunch-money-as-a-child-making-him-angrier Legacy that lived in The Visionary's timeline.

And we have no idea what events made Dark Visionary "Dark", we have no information on that timeline at all. So it's not impossible that our The Visionary is confusing her memories with Dark Visionary's memories, I have a far easier time of believing that a harder version of The Visionary would arise in a world policed by Iron Legacy than of the one who came back to save herself.

Sure it could be that way. But I think theres more than sufficient evidence to support the former theory. And it works as a comic satisfying tie-in and foreshadow. I can't think of any particular reason not to believe it's true at this point.

Then that's good evidence to believe Omnitron X didn't come from this timeline. You also have to figure that in whatever timeline Omnitron X originated from he was never blown up by a future version of himself either. Omnitron X self-destructing himself and our version of Omnitron-1 probably severely altered the trajectory of Omnitron's character. If so it would make sense that when X does eventually comes back (due to weird timey-wimey shenanigans that allowed him to keep existing), he doesn't even recognize what his former self in version.4 has become. Take this a step further into version.5 and Omnitron X's knowledge has been assimilated back into the fold and would totally be something a future version.10 would have known about, and you get a pretty good idea that Omnitron X's past versions are not what we have come to know in the core timeline of the comic.

Well, the way I always thought the game made it sound was Visonary traveled back in time to stop the IL future, and the act of doing that started causing a few breaks in time to occor (which is how IL made his way to the "regular" timeline)

It was the cracks in time that allowed the Visionary to travel back in time (and pick up an alternate version of herself in the trip).

Was it the cracks in the timeline that allowed The Visionary to travel in time or was it her overall badassery?