So, the real question is.....do those of us at the launch party WAIT to post rules question until others have received their copies? OR should we start asking questions right away, to confuse, confound, and make jealous those that are still waiting?
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I have actually been considering this for quite awhile. Vengeance will be released in waves, which is going to give different people, thourhg no fault of their own, knowledge of the game at different times. Therefore, I don't think it's a good idea for people to randomly mention diffrent things before most people had a chance to get the game. There are many people who like to be surprised, and they shouldn't have to avoid this site, just because of the way the game is ebing released.
As we get closer, I was going to create 2 threads. One for general stuff, and another for rules. I thought it would be a great idea to limit all discussion of Vengeance in these forums, to just those thread. This way, people can still enjoy the community, without having to worry about spoilers. If they want to be spoiled, they can read those threads, but it should be there option.
If GtG is onboard with the idea, I (or anyone else) will create those threads with topics that warn about the spoilers.
Meh.
Things are already released in "waves", I did not get Shattered Timelines until several months after release and choose to read some threads and not others until I did have it. So long as the thread titles aren't as generic as "Some questions" it would be clear what it refers to.
I’m game for as many spoilers as you guys can throw at me!
My suggestion would be to either have a special "vengeance information may only be in here" sub-forum, or just that people should title their threads with a "Vengeance Spoilers" tag. The former requires the action of the administrators, while the latter requires the consistent and conscientious action of the entire forum populace. It is debatable which of these is preferable, though I know which one I consider more reasonable and realistic.
Great idea, but how often have threads stayed on topic here? WIthout some rules, they can/will pop up anywhere, and that is all I am seeking. I place to make sure that if you don't want the info, don't go there. I am not suggesting something long term, just until the pre-orders are shipped.
It sucks that I can't be there, but seriously, don't wait to get answers on my account. After the release party the game is live. Just make sure your thread clearly states Vengeance question and people who don't want to know can avoid them till they aquire their copy.
That is my thoguht on the issue.
I wasn't suggesting that people don't get answers. I was only suggesting that we keep everything Vengeance related in a single area or clearly labeled. I think the former is much easier to implement than the latter, hence why I suggested it.
I know what's in Vengeance. This means nothing to me. I just was trying to make a suggesting so that it wasn't ruined for other people. My bad. I will keep these ideas to myself from now on.
I will point out that Boardgamegeek has separate areas for each expansion, rarely are they used, with all questions going in the main sentinels forum. Trying to make people post in a specific place when talking about a specific thing is doomed to fail, particularly as threads waunder into other topics, (as Pydro points out above), people new to the forums don't know the rules (and I expect an influx with Vengeance being released as a standalone game) or people are just lazy.
Don't keep your ideas to yourself, put them out there, we need to hear the things we haven't considered. But don't take it personally when others point out flaws in your ideas or try to modify them.
Interesting. We beg and beg the game developers to give us clues and previews of the upcoming expansions, and then when the game is released we ask players not to say anything until we get our copies...
I fully encourage the use of spoiler tags in subject lines during the release period. That seems like a noble idea. The reality is that it wont always happen. And the other reality is if you are coming to the forums during that time really not wanting to see spoilers, maybe the forum isn't the best place to be. Would you walk into a dive bar only to throw a fit when you see a drunk guy passed out at the bar?
Spoilers: Tag your stuff. Not because you have to. Because its common courtesy.
Spoil-Free'ers: Manage Expectations
Spoil Sports: Bugger off
I don't mind modifications, my whole point was that this should be something that should be discussed and encouraged, not to simlpy rely on people to put the right thing in the title. This wasn't mentioned yet, and I think the issue is important. Based on the responses here, if I didn't know what was in Vengeance, I wouldn't come to this forum from February 1 until I got my copy. Of course, that is just my opinion.
We beg and beg the game developers to give us clues and previews of the upcoming expansions, and then when the game is released we ask players not to say anything until we get our copies...
I kind of agree. Why not let people jabber about the exciting upcoming product? Because some people don't have it yet? Lots of people won't be buying it immediately, so even a year after it's fully available the problem would be the same. Seems to me, once the product has been sent to the printer, it's out of beta. Time to lift the beta/playtesting NDA and let people tell the world the glorious news about what's coming.
Better yet would be for >G to do an info offensive as soon as the product goes to the printer so that they controlled the flow of exciting new info in the lead-up to release, but that seems to be either too time consuming or not interesting enough to them to do.
Yeah, because there isn't any correlation at all to blabbing all you know about a movie or book just released...
Sure, there's a correlation, but a card game isn't a movie or a book. If someone says "omigod, NewGuyHero has this one card that does XYZ, wihch makes him wicked vs. SuperHardVillainMan", is that the same thing as knowing that Bruce Willis was dead the whole time (sorry, spoiler) which is the lynchpin of the entire movie? I would argue that any info you hear before packages appears on doorsteps is just going to get people pumped about getting their hands on NewGuyHero, not ruin your enjoyment of the game.
I mean, what is there to spoil? We know what the heroes are, we know what the villains are, we have a general idea of how Vengeance changes the gameplay. Does it really matter if we know what the text is on any particular new card? How would this be any different than for people who have to wait to get Vengeance until next X-mas because they don't have the money for it now? They're going to be bombarded with spoilers all year, but that's different and OK I guess?
You under estimate just how much people love to complain about things.
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So. Much.
In previous releases flavour text has been far more important to me than the abilities of the cards themselves; watching the evolving story is one of the reason I keep coming back to Sentinels and having someone lay it out before I can look it over… yeah, mega pissed.
So then, discussions about fun new card interactions or rules debates about new rules is cool as long as people don't quote flavor text?