I don't see inconceivable obstruction or lady luck in play. They probably aren't neccessary.
UNLOCKED!
Environment: Block
Villain: Kismet
Heroes: KNYFE, FANATIC, ARGENT ADEPT, HAKA
- prison riot brought 3 inmates
- KNYFE had the talisman
- Fanatic last one to be incapped
Unlocked upon defeat
My theory: Lose to Kismet in the block with the talisman in heroes area.
EDIT: Stupid contradiction due to sleep.
???
Did you lose or win?
I lost. Damn. i meant unlocked when I lost. I'll edit it.
There's definitely another factor besides what's stated in UXM266's theory. Just had a non-unlock with Haka, AZ, and PW Adept; the Talisman was in Haka's play area, Kismet finished off the last surviving hero (Haka) on her turn.
Two big differences I notice from the information UXM266 provided about their unlock:
- Prison Riot was not played in my game, in UXM266's it was
- The Talisman-holder was also the last hero standing in my game, in UXM266's they were different heroes
Could be that the missing piece is one of those two.
Scratch that, just had a game that hit both of those differences and no unlock.
Tachyon, RC Wraith, Sky-Scraper vs. Kismet in the Block
Tachyon held the Talisman, Wraith was last to be incapped
Prison Riot was played (only brought out Char)
Kismet defeated the last hero on her turn. No unlock.
Maybe she needs to be defeated first, you know to send her to the Block
Edit, did this, with the prison riot play and four inmates in play. no unlock.
Does Prison Riot need to play three inmates? I also had an agent in play at the end of the battle, could that be an issue?
Unlocked.
Used the same team that has seen success (KNYFE, Fanatic, AA, Haka), lost to Kismet in the Block. Talisman ended in Kismet’s play area but had bounced around. There was a Prison Riot played, but it didn’t produce any inmates (second to bottom card of Block), and the environment ended with one Agent in play.
Starting to think it’s just beat Kismet (maybe in Atlantis?), then lose to her in the Block with KNYFE in the first slot and have taken the Talisman at least once, maybe with a Riot having been played.
Or maybe, paralleling Parse, a certain number of Jinxes in play.
(Cross posted from Steam.)
The team is a crucial component. Hapless Strike shows the Block, AA, and Fanatic, which implies that it is happening during her escape, and references Prime Wardens issue 11. Glass Jaw references Prime Wardens issue 9, which implies that Haka was at the Block as well. KNYFE was still a member of the Block at this point in the continuity, which implies that she might have been there as well.
No Unlock, but here are my latest notes in case they trigger any ideas for the rest of you gunters...
Setup:
Have previously beaten Kismet in Atlantis with Dark Watch
Kismet in the Block vs. KNYFE, Legacy, RC Wraith, Tempest
During Game:
Prison Riot came out during a lock down & brought out 3 inmates
Heroes used the Talisman's power on both The Block and Kismet
At End:
Killed by damage from inmates. 3 inmates in play (Char, TCP, & Rogue), no agents
Wraith was holding the Talisman
KNYFE was the last to fall
I’m really coming around to the belief that it’s the full team composition that does it.
Except, per Steam, Haka is not necessary.
It is not just having prison riot played a minimum nuber of times.
I defeated her in Atlantis and then lost to her in the block. The team in the block was KNYFE (first position), Dark Visionary and Haka. I used incaped Dark Visionary’s power to play Prision Riot 6 times and then lost with KNYFE as the last hero standing. No unlock
I am now thinking that KNYFE needs to be on the team and prison riot needs to be played, but also that you need to have at least 4 prisioners in play when the game ends. Winning in Atlantis may be a precondition.
I can deny the prisoners in play. I won with no prisoners in play.
The Steam unlocks have all had the commonality of team composition. All of them have had KNYFE, AA, and Fanatic.
I'm thinking it's a pun on Wardens, such that AA (head Prime Warden) and at least one other PW are required, even if in their non-PW forms.
If I hadn't unlocked already I'd be testing "lose in the Block, having flipped the Talisman at least once, with KNYFE, any AA, and (any version of Fanatic/Haka/Tempest/Captain Cosmic) on the team."
Confirmed. Lost with KNYFE, Dark Vis, and Haka. KNYFE was last standing, 5 prisioners in play and prision riot played 3 times. Prisioners dealt the last damage. Talisman was flipped several times. No Unlock.
I will test KNYFE, AA and Haka and see what happens.
Hah! A pun with the “Wardens” makes total sense, especially after defeating blood sweat and tears to get mad bomber blade.
Should try it with more or less of the wardens, and maybe if KNYFE has to be part of it.
Well it is not just knyfe and the wardens. I didn’t win at Atlantis first this time, so maybe that is the problem. Do we know if anyone got it without winning in Atlantis immediately prior?
Several people have suggested they never beat Kismet in Atlantis (sounds like a Woody Allen movie), so I dunno.
Unlocked on iPad
Beat Kismet in Atlantis with talisman in my hero area
lost to kismet in block with talisman in hero area.
no prison break played
Same hero team both places?