Bounties

[Ironic]

Technically, it's not confirmed that Con's a bad guy - just suspected.  It is confirmed that we have "met Con before".

Omnitron seems unlikely, since Shattered Timelines already has an Omnitron.  Con is an AI, or at least a being who will have access to vast technological power in the future.  And Con is very cheerful and casual.  Could Con be Golem Unity?  It talks like Unity, it's a robot, "Unity" and "Concordant" are close in meaning, and Golem Unity's incap side doesn't really make it clear what's happening, or how bad it will be long-term.

Of course, we also don't know what Golem Unity's game is, aside from thinking itself to be the real thing (at first).  So even if I'm right, it doesn't answer the good or bad question.

Ironic

[BlueHairedMeerkat]

It would also mean that we don't have Freedom Six bios for a reason... Hmmm.

[lynkfox]

*giggles that blue got this on the wiki before i could*

YAY! all of you update the wiki like that yay!

[jagarciao]

I do like the idea of Con being the extreme force of Order, kind of the opposite of Akash'bhuta, and as mentioned by someone else that can be just as destructive as an extreme force of Chaos... but that doesn't really match up with Christopher's enigmatic clue  of having seen Con before... 

 

 

[Vyolynce]

@Christopher

You either die a hero or you live long enough to enslave the world in your grief-stricken quest for iron-fisted justice.

Quote of the week. A++, would shout "YES" at my screen again.

Seconded!

[Blossercubbles]

Ooh! I really like the idea of Unity downloading her personality into something robotic, and as it slowly degrades over time, the playful nature stays intact, and she helps out the world, and Jim, as CON. That's just swell! The world needs more Unity!

[Craig]

@Chaosmancer

We really need to take away his smoke bombs. Now I'm really curious to see what happens.

I imagine what you would see is a slender, bearded and long-haired gentleman looking rather silly.

[Phantom5613]

@Blossercubbles

Ooh! I really like the idea of Unity downloading her personality into something robotic, and as it slowly degrades over time, the playful nature stays intact, and she helps out the world, and Jim, as CON. That's just swell! The world needs more Unity!

Yes, the personality really does seem to fit between CON and Unity. And ever since I first read CON's dialog I imagined it's voice being female. The uniqueness of Chrono's guns(Which I take were designed by CON) look like they have the same 'feel' as some of Unity's work, at least to me. And the theory of Unity's brain being transfered to G-Unity but then somehow becoming CON afterwards just fits too well for me to think otherwise at this moment without more information.

[Foote]

@Phantom5613

Yes, the personality really does seem to fit between CON and Unity. And ever since I first read CON's dialog I imagined it's voice being female. The uniqueness of Chrono's guns(Which I take were designed by CON) look like they have the same 'feel' as some of Unity's work, at least to me. And the theory of Unity's brain being transfered to G-Unity but then somehow becoming CON afterwards just fits too well for me to think otherwise at this moment without more information.

Thanks for bringing that up, as I was recently thinking the exact same thing about Chrono's new arm. CON asks Chrono what color he wanted his new arm in. That is quite frankly all the evidence I needed to link CON and Unity. What that connection is and how it happens though is anyones guess though.

Here is what I find interesting. Chronos new arm. Its an arm. Its a bow. It certainly seems like it can change and morph on a whim. The purple lightning on his compound bow could possibly be consistant with what we see in the art for Brain Storm. CON itself is a fully sentient mechanical building that has seemingly built multiple versions of itself (it mentions that it is on version 4). Everything about CON and Chronos arm point to clear signs of Technopathy.

It is possible that her Technopathy was so strong that after the original Unity dies that her powers manafest a sentience of its very own, eventually coming to terms thats its is a being of its own and no longer Unity. For this interpretation, consider Golem Unity = CON version 1.

And I brought this up before, but the implication of CON being fully sentient raises questions and possible other connections to the cosmic force that rebuilt and created Cosmic Omitron. If it was interested in Omitrons sentience, would Unitys powers peak a similar interest?

[Phantom5613]

@Foote

Thanks for bringing that up, as I was recently thinking the exact same thing about Chrono's new arm. CON asks Chrono what color he wanted his new arm in. That is quite frankly all the evidence I needed to link CON and Unity. What that connection is and how it happens though is anyones guess though.Here is what I find interesting. Chronos new arm. Its an arm. Its a bow. It certainly seems like it can change and morph on a whim. The purple lightning on his compound bow could possibly be consistant with what we see in the art for Brain Storm. CON itself is a fully sentient mechanical building that has seemingly built multiple versions of itself (it mentions that it is on version 4). Everything about CON and Chronos arm point to clear signs of Technopathy.It is possible that her Technopathy was so strong that after the original Unity dies that her powers manafest a sentience of its very own, eventually coming to terms thats its is a being of its own and no longer Unity. For this interpretation, consider Golem Unity = CON version 1.And I brought this up before, but the implication of CON being fully sentient raises questions and possible other connections to the cosmic force that rebuilt and created Cosmic Omitron. If it was interested in Omitrons sentience, would Unitys powers peak a similar interest?

I don't know if the same 'Intelligence' that brought Omnitron back could really be responsible for CON if we're following the Unity theory. G-Unity apparently has some form of sentience already, so I don't see why it would need outside assistance in this aspect when it switches over to CON.

[BlueHairedMeerkat]

I don't think Foote was suggesting that the Intelligence was responsible for G-Unity or Con, just that it would be interested by a second sentient machine as it was by the first...

[Ironic]

If its interesting in Omnitron that Omni created itself, then GolConUnity which (according to this theory) was just an accidental side-effect of a metahuman's powers could not be interesting in the same way, although it might be interesting in different ways.

[ian.hankin]

Rereading Chrono-Ranger's bio, I am struck by a few things about Con. First of all, Con has a time-machine. I think it is fairly safe to assume that Con is the one who opened the portal to Jim's timeline in the first place, and that Con is the one who specifically wanted Jim to come to the Final Wasteland. I draw this from the seemingly innocuous line that Con speaks upon first seeing Jim: "Boy and I glad to see you." Now, one can interpret that as Con saying "boy am I glad to see someone who isn't a monster", but that's not what I took away from it. I think that Con a) was expecting Jim, and b) knew Jim in the past. This also lends credence to the idea that Unity eventually becomes Con, since she would have met Jim in the past.

On the other hand, I am inclined to believe that Con has plans of his/her/it's own. For one thing, how did Con survive this long? It seems most if not all technology has been destroy in the Final Wasteland, so what exactly is powering Con, how has Con been maintained? If Con could survive this long in such a hostile environment, why is Omnitron not still around in Final Wasteland?

Also, something about Con handing out bounties just doesn't feel right. Sure, the bounties it gives Jim are very bad people, but there are a lot of nasty people in many different timelines. Why these people, why this timeline? Clearly, Jim's efforts seem to be focused on the main timeline of Sentinels, and the villains that exist here and now. Why? Are these really the most dangerous and nasty villains that have ever existed and ever will? I doubt it... It seems too convenient that out of all the era's of history, Con just happened to choose modern times to send Jim to. I agree, Con is trying to make very specific alterations to the timeline, and for a purpose that has yet to be revealed.

Another thing, it is established that the monsters of Final Wasteland have been in hiding correct? Then why is Jim not being sent to eliminate them before they strike? The only one he's gone after is Plague Rat, everyone else depicted on the bounties doesn't seem to have much to do with the Final Wasteland timeline, at least not that we know of. I'm starting to doubt that Con really wants to prevent the creation of the Final Wasteland, or at very least, it knows more about how all this happened than it is letting on.

Maybe I'm completely barking up the wrong tree here, but this all just feels too convenient to me. At the moment, Con seems like a deus ex machina, and I know Sentinels is very well written, so >G clearly has more plans for Con. It's kind of frustrating that Jim doesn't stop to ask what Con actually is or how Con came to be.

[Ronway]

@ian.hankin

Another thing, it is established that the monsters of Final Wasteland have been in hiding correct? Then why is Jim not being sent to eliminate them before they strike? The only one he's gone after is Plague Rat, everyone else depicted on the bounties doesn't seem to have much to do with the Final Wasteland timeline, at least not that we know of.

The only real thing I can disagree with.

So, all of the urban legends you hear about the Loch Ness Monster or Big Foot? The tales of creatures terrible and bizarre? No one has any proof, do they? That's because the Chrono-Ranger got to them first.

He has been hunting all of the Urban Legends, Plague Rat is just the one that is most important SotM, as it has appeared during the story telling. The reason why the other villains appear on bounties is because they also pose a threat and why have a bunch of monsters that don't appear in the game be on bounties? It's ore fun seeing things you will actually face, at least I think so.

[ian.hankin]

Ah, that makes sense. Though I am still a bit confused by how time-travel works in SotM. It seems to me that time travel makes an alternate timeline rather than changing the current one, so what exactly is Con trying to accomplish? Clearly Jim's efforts have not unmade the final wasteland, though he may have prevented it from coming to be in the current timeline... I guess my main question is Con's motivation for all of this. Oh well, I guess we'll find out.

[Foote]

The multiverse. Multiple (possibly countless) different universes (timelines) that run parallel to each other but all have minor differences.

Time travel does not create different timelines. They already exist. The issue is that time travel isn't an exact science. And with whatever is ultimately the cause of the time cataclysm (all of these timelines are no longer running parallel, crashing into each other and forming these random time holes) I'm sure it's near impossible to make an exact jump. 

Visionarys original timeline is actually the IronLegacy timeline (at least that's what's implied. We do not have any knowledge of a freedom 6 outside of its relation to Iron Legacy). 

Cons motives are curious. Could these specific in game targets play a more important role within the narrative then has been let on?

Consider expats deck. All the villains, regardless of who, have shiney red eyes. Ambuscade and Truth can be seen like this who also happen to be bounties. Are they secretly ushering in a greater evil?

[Ironic]

I am pretty sure that the glowing eyes thing is just a Sentinels art convention.  It happens all the time, and is not always consistent within the same character.