Episode 190 of the Letters Page: Writers’ Room: Tome of the Bizarre Vol.3 #52

This came about from the topic Post Oracle of Discord

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Vince Snyder, what a scumbag! This was a great story for a tragic villain.

I think they confused necrosis with cirrhosis. :B

“I’m different, I’m a rhinoceros now!” Classic. Definitely a line that will convince anyone you’re totally okay.

Very glad Cult of Gloom wrote that Carmichael letter in, those were some great answers. :smiley:

I so dearly love anything Xtremiverse on this podcast.

Hey, you gotta spend fights to make fights!

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I’m so excite we finally got a Naturalist Writers’ Room, as it’s been an ongoing thought on the LP Discord that he’s overdue one. Poor guy, though. Poor Benji too. Snyder is a jerkass.

It’s amazing how many things in comics could be solved successfully if everybody just sat down and actually talked first.

As for my own questions: Soothsayer being British confirmed, woot.

Like I said in my letter, everything about Soothsayer being a skinny tweedy nerd with a British accent ranting the way he does will continue to be the most absolutely hilarious mental image ever.

Adam having to explain “tsundere” to Christopher was also hilarious.

And in other letters, the “fight economy” explanation was one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard on the podcast.

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Trevor’s really going above and beyond with the sound editing in this episode. The thunderstorm during the opening joke, Gruum’s letter being in reverb for the first time (IMO that was a little too much, but I appreciate the effort), everything about the Extremeverse ending…fantastic stuff.

Did I catch an uncensored swear word in the Gruum letter? “…SOOTHSAYER CARMICHAEL, AND THINKS HE AND RAY MANTA WOULD BE FRIENDS! MAYBE EVEN $#!%?” I think the word was actually “shipped”, but that’s weird grammatical context, and it certainly sounds like a different final consonant.

While I’m being R-rated here, I might as well go all the way up to an AO rating, and say that the “fight economy” stuff about the Bloodsworn universe immediately made me think that everything about the “intensity of fights” as a numerical value, substitutable for a numerical exchange in valuable goods, could also be translated to, er, the opposite of fighting. We’ll say no more about that topic here, of course; I’m just saying that somebody’s gotta have these thoughts, and apparently I’ve been appointed.

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That was definitely “shipped”.

But I actually thought I heard Adam drop the same swear a little later on, I forget where…

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Was Gruum reverbed, or did Christopher step away from his mic for better/more dramatic yelling?

No it was definitely reverb.

Back to being in order. I like that without having Necrosis planned, their opening goof about assault with weather was pretty on topic for him -using mad science to do something bad for a bad reason.

The idea of “seeking to know the future will cause problems” was clearly the meta inspiration for the Pandemonium Key. Necrosis could also be retconned as a writer’s inspiration for the Akash’Flora tree.

I think of the Oracle of Discord as a single being who is splintered across multiple dimensions, possibly a former singular entity who’s now halfway between being the two Wagers Masterses and the Faultless scions in multiple universes. Or maybe it’s a normal person from the original universe which splintered off parts of itself to become the original Realm of Discord, who was also splintered in the process, and started having multiple versions of himself/herself (maybe it’s an alien where that distinction doesn’t exist, like Maerinyans) that are constantly drifting in and out of alignment, seeming similar and different at the same time, hence why they can see other realities. In other terms, I see them sort of like the Black Queens of the SCP wiki, if you imagine the Realm of Discord being the chatroom where each of the Little Sisters can log in from their home universe and talk about multiverse events.

It seems as though when they wrote this episode, they didnt remember that the Oracle is supposed to exact a terrible cost for the knowledge it grants (hence why the Scholar, if he were somehow desperate enough to find them, would probably refuse to ask a question). Voss lost the concept of home, but what did Naturalist have to pay? For that matter, how did Natchy wind up wandering in the RoD, desperate for anything other than a way of getting back to the planet he cares about saving? In retrospect, the creation of Necrosis could be deemed as the cost Natch paid, but that clearly wasn’t their intention when crafting the story.

Cult Leader Carmichael is definitely a Disparation story. The question asker in that one is probably Gloomweaver himself, probably right after Dark Visionary effortlessly punks him when she shouldn’t even be able to comprehend his existence.

Adam’s description of a Tsundere is basically just someone who insults you and therefore is in love with you; what a terrible way to give confused near-pubescents the wrong idea. My understanding has always been that a tsundere is best synonymized with the quote “it’s not as if I like you or anything”, someone who has a soft side but is very defensive and won’t open up because they expect to be mocked cruelly, in a way that they’re sensitive about but don’t want to be known thereas. I would firmly disagree both that Asuka is tsundy, as she just seems like a bully to me, and that anything about being tsundy is particularly feminine…I actually think it’s a more stereotypically male personality trait, being rooted in the need to avoid seeming vulnerable, when women generally can reasonably expect to be comforted by those who care about them any time they ask.