Extremist Sky-Scraper Unlock Discussion

OK, Mad Bomber Blade does not give the Valid turns info printout, so he is almost certainly out.

I have attached my proof for it being all three forms.  There are two turns where I switch twice (Tachyon's first turn(4)  and Sky-Scraper's first turn (5)), but the valid turn count is zero.  If the Steam person has a log to show that two switches without going through all three forms can be valid, I'd love to see it, as we can compare the difference.

Well, all I know is I just did a match against Bomber Blade in Freedom Tower where I had three turns of Colossal Left Hooking into a second form switch (making sure she went either normal -> huge -> tiny or tiny -> huge -> normal) and nothing happened. Proportionist was out the whole time. iOS, so no log. Figured I'd give it a shot even if I can't log it.

I think I just miscounted,  since I had an undo so I thought it might have been counting that,  but looking through my log I actually did the three form turns twice on SS turn and twice on XPWAA turn.   SS ended in tiny form in my game so definitely does not need to be normal size to unlock. Nobody was incapped in my game.

https://pastebin.com/g3ULfeTT

Repeated the exact same thing I'd just done against Bomber Blade vs. regular Blade, except without ever playing Proportionist, and it worked. Sky never used her Huge power, so there's definitely nothing about using every power in there. 

Maybe Tachyon isn't allowed on the team, like Legacy for the Freedom Six variants?? She wouldn't help Sky augment her powers...

That feel when you are about to incap Sky-Scraper just before you finish Blade and then the Environment plays a card that would kill Blade.  You try re-winding to realise there's no way to stop it.  And then you decide whether to restart the game to get some useful data, or just go ahead and unlock the variant and not bother helping out...

 

Rest assured, I took one for the team...  Here I go again on attempt 3 to test Sky-Scraper incap (first test failed due to incorrectly counting valid turns).

OK, it's perfectly acceptable for Sky-Scraper to be incapped, and I assume anyone else.

I also had Super Scientific Tachyon on my team.

I barely played anything on Sky-Scraper beyond her sze changing cards.  I think we can call this:

 

Win a fight against regular Baron Blade with (regular?) Sky-Scraper on the team.  There must be at least three turns where Sky-Scraper has all three of her character cards in play at some point during the turn.

 

What else could there be that we can test? (Edit : I have confirmed we can't test if it needs to be regular SS.  Unlocking Extremist stops the text for Valid turns being added)

Edit: I suppose it could be "Sky-Scraper is the only hero that may be incapacitated.  Does anyone want to test this?

 

Log is attached (watch out for undos as there are a LOT).

Edit 2: Turns out it wasn't hard to remove my undos actually...  I attached the edited one with undos undone too.

Unlocked:

I made sure to switch sizes to all 3 forms in 1 turn exactly 3 times to try to confirm the current theory.

 

Can anyone think of what else to test apart form if there is a "Nobody can be incapacitated except Sky-Scraper" clause?

Just got it! Team was SS, TLT, AA, Old Legacy, and Crono Ranger. Villain was Baron Blade, environment was Freedom Tower. Made sure to change sizes multiple times on several turns (at least 3). Also, just like the first person to unlock it, the final blow was dealt by the extra damage from Proportionist for changing size, not sure if that matters (I think someone dealt the final blow with Explosive Reveal, so probably not). Changed size every turn at least once.

I accessed all three forms four times, three of which I had proportionist in play. I don't know how to get the log, but I will if someone tells me how.

 

I didn't have Tachyon on my team, but I thought that it might be if Tachyon is on the team she cannot affect SS? The bio for Extremist SS does not mention Tachyon though, so she could be irrelavent

I have a real hard time keeping track of these unlock threads, but I wanted to ask, does Proportionist need to be in play/have been played during the game to unlock?

I never played Proportionist in my unlock.  I had TLT,  and she was had SS do tons of card draw to dig for the Colossal Left Hooks.

The community has discovered the official unlock condition for Extremist Sky-Scraper:

Win a game against Baron Blade with regular Sky-Scraper on the team. Three separate times in the game, Sky-Scraper must be Tiny, Normal, and Huge over the course of a single turn.

Good job!

Longest wait, fastest find?

*Conditions Already Found*

Well that was a quick one.  I just got caught up reading the thread and we've got her unlocked.

Time to go unlock I guess, before I even have a chance to help out.

I'm not a fan of this "valid turn" statistic at the end of the Steam log. It seemed finding the conditions became way too easy. The patterns are a lot easier to recognize when you have someone pointing the patterns out to you. Plus it also means anyone not on Steam has very little to contribute to the hunt.

Damn, that was fast. Just as I was coming in to report a failure