Yep, Haka definitely qualifies. And then they could do team-up stuff with Aata and Arataki!
Would it be weird if they dated, or would that be perfect?
IIRC, not exactly.
They need to be killed at the same time, IIRC. Being in the same universe makes that easier to happen, but it would still have to happen.
It was interesting to hear how thier approach to Kickstarter games has changed from:
Are people interested in a thing? They are! Let's make it. or They aren't! Let's not make it.
to:
Are people interested in this thing we are already working on (30%, 50%, 70% done)? They are! We will finish it. or They aren't! Scrap all that work.
The turnaround for successful projects would be quicker with the second method but the risk of wasted work for failed projects is higher too.
Still doesn’t change the fact this means they aren’t immortal anymore. If they are in separate universes they remain being immortal.
@cnranger:
The hard part is basically that, I think a lot of the complaining about OblivAeon's length is maybe not because it's actually taking longer than a board game would actually usually take behind the scenes, but because people are so used to board game companies using Kickstarter as a "finisher" that they're used to the "behind the scenes" period being mostly finished before the KS goes off--thus producing a much shorter turnaround time--that it feels like OblivAeon is taking longer than it should.
So I can empathize with Christopher deciding that they'd rather just take the possible financial loss in the future over trying to swim again against the firmly established trend of customer expectations.
I think the two very different development models also might help explain the schism in how different sides of the fandom have been viewing the matter. Since many of the digital-focused players like me are more specifically video game scene fans rather than board game scene fans, so we're used to an industry which primarily actually does use KS as a way to gauge interest and fund the entirety of development before actual work is started, thus often giving us a very different set of axiomatic expectations from the process.
Like I feel I can actually see the axiomatic differences over and over again in the discussions. The video game scene people are like "OblivAeon is coming out much quicker than the stuff I usually back comes out" and the board game scene people are like "OblivAeon is coming out much later than the stuff I usually back comes out" and then each side acts like the other side is right bonkers.
I agree with Jeysie. I could get into other opinions on the complaints on OblivAeon/GTG's pipeline, but I've said my peace elsewhere, so I'll leave that at the door. All I'll say on it is project estimation is one of the hardest things to do effectively, and when money is on the line, it tends to make people that much more vocal. :)
Re: GTG's changing model - One thing to consider with GTG and Kickstarter is that a lot of their games more recently have been acquiring licenses for games from other companies and putting a different coat of paint on them and adding touch-ups, rather than building them from scratch. Exoplanets, Dubai, Lazer Ryders, and Fate of the Elder Gods are all pretty good examples of gauging interest in a product without wasting as much investment in it should it not fund.
Meanwhile, products that GTG invested more time/energy into the production of (OblivAeon, RPG Core book, Prime War) are likely going to happen regardless of how the Kickstarter did/does, but it gives them information to decide how to further invest in the product lines. I expect we'll see Prime War someday (at this point, they need to do something for the backers of Broken City), but if the preorders for that don't get much attention beyond the initial backers, I wouldn't expect much interest in further products. Same with the RPG book.
Technically, no? But effectively, yes? If Haka were to somehow make it back to his original timeline (maybe with some help from a trapped-outside-time-and-space Commadora?) he and Lady Haka would continue to be just as immortal as they always were.
IIRC, even in separate timelines, there's still a possibility of them dying. However, since the likelihood of both Hakas dying at the same "time" while living in separate universes is effectively zero, they are functionally immortal. So them being in the same universe changes the possibility of death from "theoretically possible but realistically never gonna happen" to "this could actually happen". Just depends how closely you want to be splitting hairs.