I could've sworn that those were declared separate things. Is there a link to this ruling? I seem to remember this being a source of confusion at one point.
Playing is the same as putting into play, however, putting into play is not the same as playing.
Actually, now that I think about it, it's probably "entering play" that is the union of the two, i.e. when you play a card, it is entering play, and if you put a card into play, it is entering play. My original understanding is that if you were playing a card, you were also putting it into play, whereas if you are simply putting a card into play, you may not actually be playing the card.
By the way, way to take my statement out of context, as you ignored the earlier statement where I actually said that putting into play was not playing, and my latter statement where I said that one is a superset of the other.
I wasn't trying to take it out of context. I apologize. I just have a very poor understanding of the difference between "playing" and "putting into play" and I wasn't sure what was said by >G. By no means was I trying to insult or misquote you. I just wanted to make sure I was playing the game right with those concepts as I am constantly unsure that I understand them.
Has anyone else noticed that the Omnitron-X backstory comes with the promise of 8 more Omnitron promo cards?
Edit and emphasis mine.
I disagree, without 8 more omnitrons you get paradox.
Would Cosmic Omnitron counts as Omnitron-II?
Finally got to see the video. It's awesome!
Except for 1 thing. I hate to say this but... Repair Drones are S85, not S83. :(
When I read your comment i was confused. "How do you know he helps other Heroes? His power is for his deck onl…" Then I re-read his power, and saw so much more potential. Man, he is going to be awesome.
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Thanks to TheJayMann and koutrou i got a new signature!
Yeah, what I look forward to is using him when Infrared Eyepiece or Dark Visionary are in play. Then you put the GOOD card on bottom and put the BAD card on top and Time Shift it into the trash :)
I'm also now banning Omnitron-X and Dark Visionary vs Gloomweaver.
Dark Visionary: "hey look, a relic... do you mind?"
Omnitron-X: "of course not... there we go, it is in the trash now"
Laf, but that's the fun....Why would you ban it? It only means it'd be available for a Vast Following. ;)
Every time I beat Gloomweaver it's the old-fashioned way, not via relic trashing.
The only times we've won by relics, we would have won by damage in a turn or 2 anyway, and we just waited so we could say we'd done it. So yeah, pretty much same here.
I do not understand very well how her power works. Assume that Omnitron-X looks at the tock of Fanatic's deck and it is an ongoing card with a power (or a relic). I assume that it goes to Fanatic's play region?
Also, assume it is a one shot like Smite the transgressor (Fanatic does 1 target 2 melee damage. you may use an extra power this turn). The damage part is clear, but who gets to use an extra power this turn? Fanatic? or Omnitron? If it is Fanatic is the second portion lost? or it is saved for her next turn?
Also, can this power be used to play Unity's drones? it is not a usual "play from hand" move
1) Yes, it goes into her play region.
2) Fanatic would get the extra power. It says "an additional", and I believe it's been confirmed by Christopher in other threads that 0 + 1 = 1 as far as "additional" powers go on turns that aren't yours.
3) Yes, it can play Unity's golems. Omnitron-X and Unity are good buddies :)
The best way to think of it is the same way that Alacritous Subdominant works for Argent Adept. The only difference is that it works when you can't play cards because it's "put into play" instead, and you have the option of not playing it.
Omnitron rebuilt itself, in a humanoid form, and approximated an empathy-component. However, this proved to be its undoing! This new, tenth form of Omnitron realized with horror, a new emotion, that its previous purpose had been death and destruction! It focused its new efforts on returning to its point of origin to destroy itself before millions of lives could be threatened!
I missed this originally. Somehow I'd gotten it in my head that Omnitron-X was a component of Omnitron's that had broken away from the rest of the collective and rebelled, not that Omnitron-X was in fact all of Omnitron, just with a shiny new emotion chip. That makes it a little creepier (which is good). The heroes aren't just fighting alongside the "good" part of Omnitron against the "bad" parts. They're actually fighting alongside the villain itself.
Yeah, the new expansion really plays with the tone that many of the best time travel stories have… that sense of dread you get from stuff like Days of Future Past. Omnitrons and Unities stories both bummed me out, and it is a good thing, that is what I expect from comic book dystopian futures.
I just got a chance to play Omnitron-X with Christopher today, and it is a really fun hero, especially if you can get it set up right and bolstered by its allies. I'm not sure how much I'm really allowed to say beyond that, but I will confirm that most (all?) of Omnitron's fun toys are represented in X's loadout.
This character is definitely the most exciting part of ST for me.
If Omnitron-X is really Omnitron from the futur, wouldn't he :
1- Have as much HP as the Omnitron Vilain.
2- Have power to automatically shutdown Omnitron because he know the code access, security procedure and anything else he need to infect and instantly destroy Omnitron ?
Ok, I wasn't really asking, just pointing out how time travel make for sloppy retcon.