electro pulse explosive! if its true then it will be way cool.
Even if he knew the code access, security procedure and anything else, Omnitron would still see this version of him as a separete threat and would probably try to out evolve and at that point try to deviate from Omnitron-X's path of history.
However it can be figured that even if he did succeed in shutting down Omnitron - that X failed somewhere as Omnitron somehow comes back and X still exists. Otherwise, if X truely succeeds - X would cease to exist and comes from a splinter of time where he doesn't and eventually Omnitron creates X.
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Ok yeah, you're right Time Travel is a mess.
Please. You think disabling all those codes and procedures wasn't the first thing Omnitron did? It practically says it in his backstory. Omnitron has no exploitable weaknesses.
Can't fight you on the hit points, though. The conversion from Villain to Hero does a number on your diodes, I guess. How people like Ambuscade and the Matriarch have so many more hit points than the heroes is a bit of a mystery anyway, but that's really a whole different issue.
It's a question of size : Omnitron-X is a humanoid, normal size build, in which Omnitron transfered its "persona", no more the building total warbot/factory he used to be. Miniaturization doesn't preserve hit points :)
He changed Morph, as Eclipse Phase players say.
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Yeah, there's a huge difference in size between the two of them. Omnitron has 100 because he's a massive robot with lots of different parts. OX is just human sized.
So now his name is Ox. Easier to say and write!
If Omnitron-X is really Omnitron from the futur, wouldn't he :
1- Have as much HP as the Omnitron Vilain.
If hero and villain HP are directly equivalent and simply represent how much physical damage you can take, the entire game makes no sense anyway. You're fine all the way to 0 and then suddenly you're out without weakening at all along the way, Legacy is an invulnerable Superman-type but he has less HP than Baron Blade, it's immediately nonsense. HP are an abstraction that represent, I dunno, like, some kind of advantage or disadvantage in a dramatically appropriate way, but do not by any means represent actual physical health or damage taken on a 1-for-1 level. Villains have a ton becasue they have "the upper hand" on any given hero due to some brilliant evil scheme, or invention, or being the size of a house, or whatever, and as a way to, in conjunction with their mechanics, determine how long they ought to last and how difficult they are. In essence, villains have more because the plot of a team-based comic demands that the villain be a real threat that is complicated to defeat, and that a team of heroes, no matter how individually powerful, need to work together to do it. The second a villain joins the heroes, for dramatic purposes, he is now subject to the rule of dramatic necessity in the same way.
This is really the only way to treat HP in any game, from D&D on, that makes any sense. That's how I treat it, anyway.
(I just realized a while later that this thread is pretty old, I apologize for dredging it up with an off topic post. I was googling Omnitron-X and it came up, didn't see how old it was.)
I've always looked at it similar to this since the playing the old RPG Phantasie on the Commodore 64, but I think this was a great way to explain it.
Does Omnitron-X have hero minions in his deck? Like Unity?
Nope.
But yeah, HP is definitely not a physical representation of how much damage someone can take. Maybe sometimes it is, though, like in the case of The Dreamer, though they probably went with 6 HP (aside from her age) to account for the occasional rouge damage that might occur to her.
But in the case of Miss Information's flipped side, where she has a higher HP than any other hero, I see it as a representation of the heroes trying to get to her. I mean, obviously Legacy could punch this woman in the face once and she'd be out cold. But then that would take away the difficulty.
Or think of the Mask of the Matriarch. It's got 9 HP. The heroes aren't repeatedly punching her in the face to break the mask–working through the 9 HP is them trying to swipe it from her.
You can also think of Traffic Pileup or the Plummeting Monorail, they aren't attacking those things, pounding them into dust, the HP represents the work it takes to clear those obstacles.
I always figured the hp did represent slamming the monorail enough to stop it and smashing enough cars to clear the pileup.
Nothing wrong with that either.