Cripes, this card. It's what makes Celestial Tribunal so much fun to play in, but I have zero idea how it's really supposed to work.
- Does the hero card count as a hero target?
- Do they count as a hero character card?
- Do they increase H?
- Do they count for/against Plague Rat flipping? Progeny?
- If Representative of Earth is destroyed, then put back into play in the same turn (this happened tonight thanks to Guise and Greatest Legacy), can the hero's power then be used again?
There are considerably more questions I could probably come up with, but this is just what happened with tonight's game.
It is a two-sided card, so is also a character card. I'm unsure whether, in addition to being a hero target and a character card, it is also a hero character card.
H never changes over the course of any game.
Even if they are a hero character card, they are not a hero, so do not count towards Plague Rat flipping. For Progeny, that depends on the answer to the question above.
In general, if a card is played again, it counts as another instance of the card. So yes, you could use the power again.
(H) is set at the start of the game and does not change.
The representative of Earth has HP, so it is a target.
It is a hero card from a hero deck.
It is a Character card because the back is diferent from the rest of its deck.
Therefore it is a hero target, and a Hero Character card. It can cause Progeny to flip, and can be targetted by the second side end of turn damage.
It does not have a player, a hand, or a play area.
Since a Hero is a character card played by a player, the Representative of Earth, according to the rulebook, is not a Hero. So it cannot be an active hero. Therefore it cannot be infected.
This all, of course, is subject to change by the video game, which has a tendency to change previous rulings and ignore rulebook definitions.
On the other hand, the FAQ/Fireside Chat says, "whenever card text says “hero”, it’s shorthand for “hero character card”. The two phrases means the same thing." Also, the second clause of the card says, "If that Hero is incapacitated,.." so internally it's consistent.
However, this is in direct contradiction of the glossary, as pointed out. So I'm going to guess that the glossary entry is in error, since it's old and probably hasn't been reconsidered in light of this particular combination. Chris would have to take a look at it, I think.
It also needs to be pointed out that the people who make the fireside chats said that Hero=character card only applied to a specific ruling, but I don't know if that was changed or updated from there.
That said, it boggles my mind that the fact that someone prefers to answer to their name, as opposed to something that is not their name, is something that requires noticing.
The Hero vs Hero Character Card thing is only relevant in the video game - in the tabletop version they are different things, so the Sentinels are four hero character cards but one hero (relevant for, say, Plague Rat flipping). But this got changed in the video game for some reason I can't remember.
No, it didn't. The videogame rules are clarifications of what the physical game rules are, it's not a change.
And Mods, why have you not moved this to the other rules forum (Celestial Tribunal not being in the video game yet)? You're usually so eager to move things.
What boggles my mind is that we, as a culture, so frequently choose names for our children with the intention of regularly using a shortened form instead. Chris, Jeff, Ben, Dave, Alex, Mike, Nick, Matt, Lou, Tom, Russ, Rob, Wes, Walt, even bizarre ones like Jim and Dick. It's pretty rare that someone with a name three syllables or more actually goes by it.
Anyway, this is now off-topic on two counts at once.
What boggles my mind is that, while Christopher prefers being called Christopher and not one of the derivatives, a large number of people on this forum feel the need to correct someone anytime he is called Chris.
