Rook City Renegades - announcement

Woo! The Kickstarter got three-times its goal in the first day! Great job, everyone. : D

Also, Trevor’s promotional video on the Kickstarter’s page is really awesome.

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Oh, oops. I forgot that when I got my “wait…what if” thought.

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Wow, so many redacted things. And Christopher said on the podcast today that at least one of the characters (“well, thing; not really a character”) is something that “nobody even knows exists in Sentinel Comics.”

The Suddenly! mechanic lets them handle the Monster of Id and The Abyss Stares Back with a single keyword, but it’s interesting they thought they would reuse that mechanic enough to make the keyword worthwhile! I can definitely see how it fits into The Harpy.

I was just thinking to myself how – if the theory that Hero #6 is Alpha is correct – you would make a werewolf character feel different from The Naturalist. And I think they’ve sort of answered that question! You have cards that check for werewolf form, but then you scatter the deck with Suddenly! cards that summon the werewolf card.

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I just realized how perfectly Suddenly! could help Expat’s ammo… probably not on the cards, but an ongoing that gives the keyword to all of the ammo.

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Anyone want to engage in rampant speculation about the six core hero variants? Got nearly an entire month to wait!

I’d say Rook City Wraith (maybe with a tweaked power) is a shoo-in.

Probably also Young Legacy, since we’ve already had the Thorathian Invasion and now Nightmist has banished Voss to Ur-space.

I could see Ra-Horus if a redacted villain turns out to be the Ennead.

I kind of doubt Termi-Nation Bunker, Unity, and Absolute Zero as this set just doesn’t feel right to me for introducing Chokepoint or Fort Adamant.

So I’m at a loss for who else it could be. Any ideas?

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If Apostate shows up, this would be the right place for Redeemer Fanatic.

Aside from that, I’m guessing at least one entitely new hero card for someone who had fewer variants before.

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I would like Prime Wardens variants, but that might be too soon.

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I’m praying that Young Legacy gets her own deck (probably not in this set, but eventually) instead of just being a variant. She seems like a big enough hero to justify it.

I think Super Scientific Tachyon might be quite likely.

We could also see some new variants, like Bloodless Wraith or Haunted Fanatic.

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My biggest theory so far is that we have the Ennead as a Redacted, and end up with Horus Ra. Then we have the Prime Warden variants.

Of course, that discounts Rook City Wraith, which seems too likely. So, if we have Horus and RC Wraith, then we can’t do a full team. At that point, Young Legacy seems likely. If we have Apostate then we get Redeemer Fanatic (Who I just realized… she would need a different power for her new mechanics, wouldn’t she?). Throw in Super Scientific and that makes 5.

It is also possible to get entirely new variants, like the Haunted Fanatic.

The biggest stumbling block is that the majority of variants don’t quite make sense in this set.

Freedom Six is a disparation set
Xtreme is a disparation set
Greatest Legacy, GI Bunker and Eternal Haka are a disparation set
It feels too early for Termi-nation (especially without Choke Point)
It feels too early for the Freedom Five set
WAY too early for Setting Sun Ra, Requital Cosmic, or Dark Conductor Adept

And that’s… ALL of the variants for these characters

I don’t know who said it, but someone pointed out there won’t be enough spinners for Ennead. They seem much more likely in a set where we get more spinner, rather than the one more villain spinner (which is undoubtedly because Chairman and Operative will be here). I believe a playtester also said there won’t be Apostate at all?

My guess is that most variants will either be new, or team versions of heroes (Freedom 5, Prime Warden, etc.). It is unlikely there will be a perfect 1 to 1 comparison from EE to DE variants, and I think I prefer it that way.

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Actually, isn’t Apostate behind the Fall of the Prime Wardens? So if he’s around and we already have the Ruins of Atlantis that they used as a base, we could see their team costumes. That would leave just 1/6 though. If we’re going to see some form of all the pre-released variants again along with new ones, they’re going to have to cram in the following expansions!

Sounds like a lie straight from the mouth of Apostate himself!

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I was briefly annoyed at the new mechanic, because it just felt wrong that the “core” heroes wouldn’t have an entire type of card in their decks.

Then I thought about WHO gets the “Suddenly” cards: Harpy and Setback. The ones with unstable or unpredictable powers. The F5 and PW are many things, but unstable is not a word I would use to describe their power sets (not even Ra and Unity). I can also see that being used for later heroes like Luminary (representing hidden plans) and Stuntman (because he’s the kind of attention stealing guy to use that sort of thing).

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Expat: Speed Loading - Ongoing. Ammo cards gain the Suddenly! keyword.

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With the general easing of bookkeeping in DE, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Ennead gets a rework to not need so many spinners.

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Yeah, if we discount emotionally unstable (Sorry Prime Wardens but… you can be a mess) then the only possible one I could think of from the Core Set would be Argent Adept, since he spends so much time not knowing what he is doing and messing up… but that’s not how he is presented the majority of the time, and all of his bad decisions come up to haunt him towards the end and in the RPG timeline.


[quote="OddballPaladin, post:74, topic:29094] With the general easing of bookkeeping in DE, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Ennead gets a rework to not need so many spinners. [/quote]

I don’t know. I think the Ennead really worked well as Nine Targets, I’d be a bit frustrated if they dropped that entirely. Then again, you never faced the Full Might of the Ennead unless you let it happen, and with the new set-up design, you could have them as massive HP targets in their own deck with the base card representing their background plans.

And, Voss shows us that they don’t feel like 20 HP targets need spinners, because of his fleet, and most of the Ennead are only 25 to 30? It isn’t unreasonable to have them not use the spinners at all.

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True enough. I imagine whatever they end up using for the Ennead will also be used for the team-style villains.

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Something I wonder about Suddenly! cards is if “cannot play cards” prevents them from auto playing. And if they then auto-play when that effect disappears.

They talk a lot in the Kickstarter description about fighting corruption, so I wonder if one of the villains will be something Miss Information-like. A Villain that is more about investigating and manipulating Hero -Villain-Environment interactions than about punching stuff.

In that case, Rook City Wraith makes a lot of sense even beyond the name and setting.

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I mean, (edit) First Apperance Expatriette (not Rook City Wraith) is right there in the image spread.

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That’s Expat’s First Appearance where she hunted Wraith.

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Yeah, interesting – previously we had that Expatriette’s first appearance was in Emigrant’s Song #1, not Mystery Comics, but that nemesis icon definitely matches Expatriette’s character card from the same image.