Well, to be honest, I only put Skinwalker in there as a special case because it was on his character card. Everyone of those other options is mostly just HP damage loss.
A lot of those special conditions was because I was curious, when i started the project. I wanted to know how often TerraLuna Impulsion beam fires, for instance - it never ever came up in any of my games against Blade, but is it common? I don't think Arathorn parses those stats into his final document, but when I did it it came up supririsingly alot.
So that's why its in there. How often does a game last long enough for Skinwalker to eat himself? How often does the Mars Base Self destruct actually go off or how often do players get lost in time? I figure close to never but...
So Channel the Eclipse and Dawn killing herself is something that just struck me as 'normal play' for her. Where as Skinwalker is an effect of his character card so it made me more interested in if it happens or not. I suppose you could also classify Channel the Eclipse (and similiar) under 'Some other card took them out (Trex, Kraken, ect) sort of deal.
Makes sense. I just wasn't sure if there was some other detail about Skinwalker that I was missing.
Unless you think it's worth adding a separate category for the villain killing themselves through normal play (and I'm not sure it is, honestly), it's probably easiest to just keep filing those games under normal winning conditions.
I wanted to bump this thread to ask for updates. What are some areas that need more data? like specific villains, heroes with variants, or environments that need more play to have a good sample size? I'm not good at parsing data, but I like providing it to those who can use it. I only have the video game at the moment, but as the expansions become available in the video game, I'd love to help add the data that is least provided.
Also, other updates I'd love to hear about: How many games are we currently averaging a month? Do games submitted from the video game have their own category?
Thanks!
Edit: Okay, I found the details tabs on Arathorns list, and if I only count the things I can do in the video game, DW Expat, DW Fixer, SS Tachyon, and GI Bunker have less games than the rest at less than 325 games each, and Spite and Cosmic Omnitron are the slightly less played villains, at less than 400 games each. Nothing stood out on the environment list with only things available in the video game right now.
I stumbled across this project as a new fan of this game. Are the stats still being updated? I've been submitting games, but was curious if anyone actually is collecting them anymore.
Anyone have a sense of how hard this project would be to generalize to other games? (I'm thinking Marvel's Legendary, which is my other favorite game at the moment)
It would be nice to hear some of the lessons learned in the process, and hopefully some reusable pieces of code or formulas.
I know entries are still put in as this Google doc gets updated occasionally based on data from it http://x.gray.org/sentinels-of-the-multiverse-difficulty-scores.html
Hey guys. Arathorns updates have slowed, I can only assume RL is taking its toll.
If anyone would like to work with the raw data and put together some sort of Statistics display, send me a PM and I'll get you access to it to do with as you wish! Some sort of form like Arathorns would be great - I simply don't have the knowledge or the time to do such a thing.
Let me know if you can help! Data is still being collected, and when Villians is released I will update the input form for it. New results graphs would be really needed then!
I know Arathorn hasn’t had a chance to run the stats with the new batch of heroes so far, so I ran my ratty old Perl script on them just a few minutes ago to see how things are shaping up. (Standard small sample size warnings apply.)
Desperate Naturalist looks very strong (15 wins in 16 games), as does Santa Guise (10 wins in 12 games). Scholar of the Infinite isn’t looking half bad himself, either (34 wins in 43 games).
Chokepoint is winless in 13 games recorded so far. Almost all of those games were considered a 1 or a 2 on a difficulty scale of 1-5 (5 = hardest). Still early, but she’s looking weaker than Deadline.
For the other heroes and villains (and the environments), there’s still not a lot of data to work with yet.
As for the raw stats, it looks like there are a few Scholar entries that were actually Scholar of the Infinite (from the comments), plus a few “Infitinte” typoes still in there. Not a big deal, but it probably wouldn’t hurt to edit those in by hand where they show up.
Thanks NineEdgeFirst for doing that! I corrected the mistake on the forums that lead to the Scholar having the typo, and the 'Find and Replace' is still processing... there are LOTS Of entries! Lol.
I would love if you could post the results of your script up for all to see for everything, but I don't know how expansive that is!
Sooo.,... the new version of Google Sheets that we've been in for about a year or so, has really upped their game on processing complex formulas with large amounts of data. I got the basic formulas put back into the sheets, so I have some basic data again - nothing as complex or cool as Arathorns, but given a few more weekends I might be able to get some updated stats again.
It’s not that expansive, but the output is pretty messy since I’d only ever intended to use it for myself. Let me see if I can get it cleaned up in the next day or two, and then find someplace to upload it.