Thanks for the incap abilities MigrantP! Much appreciated. :)
I've explained how I feel in what I believe is a calm and civil way, and I'm going to make one more statement and then withdraw from this discussion, because I don't see that arguing or accusations of trolling or comparisons with aggressive comments are helping us at all.
I dislike exclusive promos in general, because I want everyone to be able to own and experience the fun stuff if they want it. It seems that because of the America-centric nature of the board game world it's the same group of people who get it easy every time, so to speak, i.e. people who live in the US close to conventions and/or have the resources to travel and/or get free/cheap shipping on Kickstarter. Sure, sometimes this happens with Essen too, but that just disadvantages a different group, and I don't approve of that either.
I don't mind >G promos because of course you can print your own, or just memorise/write down the power(s). I can still play Young Legacy despite not owning an official copy. And I don't mind stuff being given out to Kickstarter backers/booth visitors/whatever as rewards, while everyone else has to pay for said stuff.
tl;dnr: I don't like promos in general because they by definition restrict the number of people who can own and enjoy them - gameplay-changing material should be available to all because they are FUN.
I'm also very excited about the tablet game. The card game is fantastic but takes space and time and that can be hard to find sometimes. But with the tablet I can pull it out anywhere and play right there and save my current game. Even with owning the card game and every expansion it sounds like a good investment to me.
As for promos I have a rather passive stance on those. I would love to have the new Tachyon promo and am going to try and get it. But if I don't that's okay too I can just print it off the internet. Greater than games is really cool about that.
Honestly, I think Fanatic over there is the real troll here.
I dislike that I can’t get the promo, and would like a way to do so, but that doesn’t mean I think anyone’s in the wrong because of it. It is just unfortunate to me that I will have to have my friend by the digital copy so I can get the promo. It inconveniences me, but that doesn’t mean it needs to change. I would like it to, but I’m not going to try to force it.
If asking that people on opposite sides of a debate show civility to one another and asking those that fail to do such remove themselves from a conversation is your definiton of a "real troll", I'd like to suggest you look up the typical definition of the word. I'm assuming that most of us are adults here (probably a few teens mixed in as well, though those do seem relatively rare on table top game sites), and there's no reason we shouldn't act like it.
I didn't find you to be "troll-like," but I did see you defaming another person's character over a product that they are excited about offering to an entire community. I think it may benefit you to go back and reread their comments and realize that they were never anything but civil and were basically just giving facts the entire time about what the product is and what to expect. You were rude about it, but I don't think you intended to be. Unfortunately, once name-calling starts, it does regress to a more immature conversation, and you were the first one to throw a name.
Personal attacks of any sort are out of line. I've been at GenCon and not here at the times when it was most needed, but I'm here now. Cool your jets, folks. If you have an issue with someone on this forum, contact me or another mod (Rabit, arenson9). Don't air it here.
First off, Reading this thread makes me sad. And after such a great gencon.
Secondly, I am THE only troll on these forums. I have seen nothing here to change that fact.
missing promos stinks. Iv missed a ton of them for SotM. But I am still not entitled to that Redeemer Fanatic regardless of the reason I missed it. I just had to learn to cope and print it off BGG. And it works just like the real one!
Buying a friend a copy of the SotM app (and who doesn't know someone with a tablet/smartphone?) could be a big solution to the "debate". It's a good opportunity to get someone new into the game, and you could give them the stipulation that you'd like the promo in return for the gift. $5-10 (which is what I assume the app will cost, total speculation on my part) to bring someone new into the brother/sisterhood, plus get the new promo would be worth it in my opinion.
Linen paper (64 lbs.) is about $7 for 80 pages at Walmart. Going to have to use the color printer at work. It is awesome GtG is cool about letting those that missed print them off and the files are not guarded and policed like that UK based mini game company. Of course, I asked someone who was at GenCon to snag me one of the SST cards since he was all about anything and everything MtG. Print and play will be my backup plan.
That's really neat! Hopefully they aren't overly complicated ways. Win a Advanced Game against Citizen Dawn where Citizen Dawn is on her flip side, all heroes are at 1 HP, 3 Obsidian Fields in play, a Volcanic Eruption in play, and use Sucker Punch or Wrathful Gaze as the way to destroy Citizen Dawn.
This sounds like a solid release. I'll definitely be picking up the game regardless of if I get the promo or not. That being said I'd sure love a hard copy of it and I hope I get ahold of one!
And for those who say it's just a bit of cardboard, perhaps you could give your copies to folks on the forum who missed out? We could set up a swap or something! Kind of like the art swap that happened a month ago! That way the folks who don't care about the physical copy of the card get some cool fan-made Sentinels swag and the folks who miss out can get the promo card that matters to them!
Problem solved! I look forward to seeing those promo trades when the game comes out! If I miss out then I'm definitely willing to craft a perler bead Sentinel item or two!
