Vengeance Bios--Revealed!

Go see for yourself, if you don't believe me!

Heroes are up, as of this post, with Villains/Environments forthcoming.

 

So, how did your predictions pan out?

I saw them. They made me uncharacteristically excited.

and still no Freedom Six bios...

Honestly I'm not too impressed.  I like Setback, his "just, y'know" attitude is very fitting, I've been thinking that the missing archetype for the game was of a roguish, underwhelming kind of hero, not quite a mercenary (since those have professional pride to consider) but someone who's pretty much entirely selfish and shallow and generally "of the world" (which implies something very different than "worldly").  The Naturalist will probably be fun to play, although his Nature-vs.-corporations flavor is Anvilicious in the extreme.  But the others really don't do it for me.  "Parse" makes no sense whatsoever to me, seems to have been inserted as a pander to people who want to see a "disabled" hero...and did Miss Information really need to have a nemesis?  I interpreted the brackets symbol as connoting a LACK of nemesis (and if she has a nemesis at all, shouldn't it be the entire Freedom Five?).

Likewise, I have several problems with The Sentinels, starting with their name being more than a little confusing when it's also the name of the game.  The fact that Medico is gay again seems like it's being done as "props" to a fringe group, and completely unnecessary since we already have a homosexual hero; then there's also the fact that we were told there would never be a healer (having a "hero" who is 1/4 a healer is a novel solution to that issue, but I'm deeply puzzled as to how this is going to work).  Plus, personally, the whole "Idealist is mentally a child" thing REALLY squicks me, and finally there seems to be a continuity error with Writhe, as he's described being stopped by the existing three Sentinels, but we saw him on one of Tachyon's cards and her role wasn't mentioned.  So if he's a hero now, why is Tachyon fighting him?  (For that matter, why is Expatriette shooting Setback on Shock Rounds?)  Ultimately, I'm baffled by the idea we're getting EIGHT new heroes instead of five, when we already have a single Villain deck that represents five actual Villains; it seems like this is going to get cluttered (and just imagine Sentinels and four other heroes vs. the Ennead! how would you ever find enough table space?).

Alone of the new characters, I have no real opinion on KNYFE, past that I lack the patience to type her name with periods.  "Short-range energy bursts" seems like kind of a lame power, but a hero with a connection to The Block seems like a vaguely neat concept (although it makes me think some of the Agents should have had a nemesis icon for her).  Past that, my assessment of her is pretty much "eh".  So, liking Mainstay, a little fond of Naturalist, neutral on KNYFE, a little down on the Sentinels, and very unimpressed with Parse.  (All this is of course a very ignorant prejudgment which will have nothing to do with how they play.)

Tachyon, gay hero from the first. They're not pandering, dude.

I'm very curious what the big catastrophic event affecting all time lines is. If it was something that happened during Shattered Timelines, it probably would've been mentioned directly in the bios, and so I'm guessing this big event will be in an upcoming expansion.

 

Dr. Medico was the character Adam made as a joke in one of the other posts, and so I guess they decided to make him part of the team. If he's in a group of other heroes sharing the same deck, then you still don't have a dedicated healing character, just one deck with possible healing capabilities.

 

I'm perfectly fine with Medico being gay. I don't really see it as pandering and I don't think we should have the mentality of that because we already have one gay hero, having another one is just pandering. That's still only two confirmed homosexual characters out of like 24 characters, if you include the four sentinels as seperate characters.

 

I can agree that Parse's bio seems a little weird since her powers are directly linked to Cosmic Omnitron and I wonder how that would've been explained if the IR kickstarter hadn't raised enough money to have that promo as a strech reward.

 

Ms. Information was a fan made villain that won second place in the create a villain contest, and so I can agree that the nemesis decision seems a little forced, but in Sentinels every villain and hero have a nemesis. It's just part of the underlying mechanics in the game, and Ms. Information has enough special stuff, that I don't think she needs to have a lack of nemesis on top of that. I can agree that it would make more sense for her nemeses to be the Freedom Five, but we already have Iron Legacy with the Freedom six in the same expansion, and that would be kind of repetetive.

That's exactly what I mean; they've done that one already.  If they're going to make a bunch of heroes that just happen to randomly be X, in order to try and please those members of their fanbase who also happen to be X, they've already covered "gay", and there are tons of other things-you-can-be left for them to use instead.

Why is it somehow "pandering" to have multiple heroes from a group of people that comprise 8-15% of the populace worldwide?

1 out of 24 would have been more fitting, given that the homosexual population is estimated at 0.3% of the total number of people.

The highest percentage I've ever heard is 10%, and that was discredited in the same article which gave me 0.3%…it said 10% is a common misconception based on data from a flawed study.

Perhaps they would have simply said there was a transmission of data from the stars (this is a plot device in at least two major sci-fi settings, probably others that I haven't heard of, so it's fitting enough), and not tried to tie it to any other characters.  Maybe she would have just been a random office worker at NASA who happened to receive the signal, and thus she'd have been tied to MissInfo by virtue of professional rivalry because they both went to secretary school together or something.

I can agree that it would make more sense for her nemeses to be the Freedom Five, but we already have Iron Legacy with the Freedom six in the same expansion, and that would be kind of repetetive.

Well, "around" the same expansion; she wasn't actually included IN it.  But presumably the Vengeful Five will count as one villain with all five nemesis symbols of the Freedom V among them, so I guess that's one reason for it not to be done.  (Since I've never peeked at the back of Miss Info's card, but have looked through her deck, I was assuming that the costumed form of her seen on What Doesn't Kill You was after she gives herself superpowers and openly attacks the FV, and so I was anticipating that she might have their nemesis icons on only that side, with the "{ }" symbol signifying absence, because she's currently "innocent" and thus nobody has any reason to target her specifically.  (In general, the idea of a character having different Nemeses depending on side is too neat a concept for them not to ever do, IMO.  We'll see whether great minds think alike.)

Oh god, I just got it.  The "{ }" symbol, though first seen on Miss Info, actually stands for Parse (they're always the hero's symbol, matched to the Villain who hates them).  And Parse got her powers from a transmission FROM SPACE.  That is really, really terrible.  :sunglasses:

This is kind of like saying that because Mr. Fixer is black, having any black heroes after Rook City is pandering. Also, why do we need more women characters? We had like three in the core set, that demographic's already been covered.

Haven't they had too many super heroes? They should totally focus their efforts in making other things, like the Dolphin in a can. Perhaps a hot dog vendor will add a nice change of pace?

Yeah, let's have one each of a few "minorities" - a woman*, a black person, a gay person, a person with disabilities. Even better, let's combine them into a single character and have done with it. Then we can concentrate on more white male American non-disabled characters! Yay!

Gay people are dramatically under-represented in the world of game characters, so I have absolutely no problem with another gay character - quite the contrary.

*I know women aren't technically minorities. but in the comic world they are.

He's right. No more gay heros. We also probably have too many black heros as well. Don't want too many of those either am I right? 

All new heroes must be Wookies.  

Medico has broken the game.  I just played a game where all the heroes refused to take damage because they knew Medico was now in the multiverse.

Apparently he preemptively heals heroes as they take damage, and that's without his deck even being there.

 

I honestly thought the bios were a joke at first, Setback is hilarious, and I absolutely love the idea of a hero who has no idea what is happening because his luck changes drastically by the second.  I really hope this is well represented in his deck.

The Archer is OP, she is an archer and she has glasses, she's super smart and sees the connections to everything.  Really, Absolute Zero is supposed to compete with that?  At least Ryan has the heat death of the Universe to look forward to, because until then he's just going to wish he could make a bowstring that could work while frozen solid.

"Hi, my name is Ryan and I'm frozen.  In my spare time I like to be cranky and freeze everything just by being near it."  Next expansion I expect an evil Psychiatrist that preys upon the other heroes inferiority complexes, lots of self-damage in that deck.

If the Naturalist was somehow summoned by the Sentinels, with rings or something, then this expansion would be amazing.  They might have to let Setback join just to balance out the group though.

Also, no fifth Warden, but we do get the Dark Watch, whatever they do, and three new unaligned heroes. . . hmm.

I'm guessing K.N.Y.F.E.'s nemesis will be a time travelling OSHA agent, and Naturalist's nemesis will be the Scholar's robe, or maybe Tyler Vance's socks, assuming he wears socks in that suit.

Evil hot dog vendor would be a great deck.

He could be immortal, and just keeps seducing the people of Earth with his enticing smelling near-meat food product, knowing that he is surely dooming them and their descendants to indigestion and eventually extinction.

He could be a flower, I don't think we have any flowers yet.

Ha… his secret weapon will be the bacon-wrapped hot dog they sell outside of clubs in L.A. first it would deal psychic damage for the disappointment you feel because they never taste quite as good as they smell… then toxic damage to all your teammates… and finally fire damage and you are automatically incapacitated.

The Flower's nemesis would be the hero that's descended from rabbits.

Evil has already been done, can't have another evil character.

Immortal character also exist, see Haka, Anubis, and Ra (kind of).

GloomWeaver may not entice with near-meat, but he certainly has a Cult he probably enticed with powers.

 

How about a hero that continually complains about stuff all the time?

Oh wait, we have heroes already. No more heroes!

There are too many heroes with heads, we need heroes without them