I am a big lore fiend, so I love all the improved art, the new flavor text, the additions of characters and concepts that have been created in the interim.
I am one of the people who wanted really bad for the digital version to have a Story Mode, so seeing the physical game itself get one makes me super-happy.
I like seeing decks like Bunker’s that I rarely played due to finding them boring or weak, getting major updates.
I like seeing decks I was personally OK with but other people found weak, like AZ’s, get updates that will make them more fun for everybody to play.
I like that the reduced fiddliness/bookkeeping means I feel more tempted to actually play solo games using the actual physical version versus waiting for digital.
I like encouraging companies to do things in good ways that listen to the fans, which I feel this does on the “making a new edition” front.
I have an admitted personal pet peeve about not liking it when I feel like people are applying double standards to anything, and “we’re complaining about GTG doing what every other company has done without similar outcry” feels like one to me.
So I haven’t been able to see eye-to-eye with the “this leaves a bad taste in my mouth” feeling because I admit I consider companies making new editions a neutral extremely common thing I’m used to them doing (so it would be a double standard on my part to suddenly be mad at GTG for it) and then I feel like GTG is doing it in the best way possible which takes it from “neutral” to “hype” for me.
The only way this would leave a bad taste in my mouth is if all the changes being made were terrible (basically, anything that would make it worse than the average company’s new edition of a game) and I haven’t seen anything to make me feel that way; just the opposite.
In this case, that is an unfounded Booooo. Another company was responsible for the bulk of the development of Prime Wars, not GtG. That other company was unable to get the game mechanically where they wanted it to be. GtG would have loved for Prime Wars to make it, but the game just didn’t make the grade it needed to be at. Maybe in the future it will be looked at again.
EDITED TO ADD: My glib response here is not an accurate summary of events that led to the cancellation of Prime War. Please see replies further down for a more detailed summary. Apologies.
Founded booooo IMO. GTG chose to drop in-house development and outsource instead. They chose to not follow up on production or take it over when it wasn’t working out (like they did with Sleepy Hollow). They chose their priorities. A remake of SotM was one of them. I don’t approve of their choices. That’s why I’m in the Booooo column. YMMV.
Hey, I just wanted to defend our work for a sec. (which you can check out on our website, as we put up the core box materials with the serial numbers filed off.)
I by no means want to put words into >G’s mouth, but we were told repeatedly, and at every step (meeting every other month or so), that they loved the game. Prime War was just, at the time, not the right product for them to publish.
We would love to see Prime War be published, however we understand the state of the market just may not be right for the near future.
Yeah, I got the impression from the information shared that GTG just didn’t see the market at that point being good for a game like Prime War – unfortunately.
I know you read the explanations why as you posted in the thread those explanations were given in. If you weren’t happy with them, then post in that thread why.
And honestly, I don’t really understand why you came back. All I’ve ever seen of you the entire time I’ve been in this fandom is complaining about Prime War, much of it increasingly unconstructive. I’ve never seen a single positive comment from you, no indication you like or care about any other Greater Than Games product, it’s just been complaining about Prime War. You even started a pattern of increasingly posting your complaints even in threads completely unrelated to Prime War, a pattern you came back from a 10 month hiatus to continue.
It would be healthier for everyone if you find some other company or product you actually do like and spend your time and energy there, since Prime War is cancelled permanently so complaining won’t change that and it’s unconstructive to state that GTG isn’t allowed to release a Sentinels product ever again. At the very least, it’s not appropriate to derail threads with complaining about completely unrelated topics. If you must continue venting, there’s Prime War threads that would have been more appropriate.
You mischaracterize my comments and queries on Sentinel Tactics and Prime War as hateful. That is incorrect and I let my posts prior to the cancellation of Prime War reflect it. You are correct in that for years that has been my only commentary here on the forums. That is because for years this forum was the only venue to request information from GTG regarding the status of the product I had paid them for. I tried to respectfully ask for information about it, being polite but clear in my feelings and opinion, and providing supporting information for my positions.
With the cancellation of Prime War I had indeed left these forums after concluding my comments in the thread regarding that issue. GTG was the one who pushed a sales pitch for this new SotM edition on their long-concluded OblivAeon KS which brought the company to my attention again and informed me what Chris Badell was doing instead of Prime War. Coming here to the forums I found a booooo thread and added my own boo cents. See ya.
There is no “instead of”. Prime War would not be happening if this wasn’t happening. It was being done by people other than Christopher to begin with, and it was cancelled for reasons that have nothing to do with this or any GTG product.
Are you going to start showing up every single time GTG puts out a product to complain it’s not Prime War? That’s going to get old. At least now I can block you, I guess, but I still would prefer you let up on the spamming.
I haven’t been here in months and prior to that only posted every few months pushng for a Prime War status update or creating posts to try and promote enthusiasm. But I’m the spammiest spammer whoever spammed. OK, bro. See ya.
Your last post before these was in the Freedom Five thread complaining that a different company making a product for their own reasons completely separate from GTG was still GTG going “ha ha” to Prime War fans.
I definitely won’t buy the DE anytime soon, just because I’m already invested and won’t have spare money to throw around. And what I’ve seen so far of the mechanical changes I didn’t really approve of; I mostly think the old versions were better, and these adjustments don’t seem to be moving in the direction of what few changes I do think ought to be made.
Well, the Enhanced Edition is done. It ended with the OblivAeon expansion. GTG never had any plans for anything beyond that, and them making the Definitive Edition does not delay or cancel any Enhanced Edition content, because there never was going to be any more.
They had alluded to possibly doing a couple more mini expansions. Given what weird numbers of everything we have (37 heroes and 27 environments, plus however you count the villains), I was rather hoping they’d follow through on that thought.
The changing art (even within the same deck) is a stylistic choice to represent eight decades of Sentinel Comics publishing. You wouldn’t expect 1940s Legacy to look the same as late 2010s OblivAeon era when you have new artists.
At least that’s how I justify it.
I never heard anything of the sort, and would be quite surprised if they ever said that. They were very clear that there would be no more expansions after OblivAeon.
