Posting proxies of the GenCon playtest spirits was OK with GTG, so since these spirits are still “in beta,” so to speak, I’m assuming that posting proxies of the new spirits is OK as well. I’ve started the Kickstarter Proxy Project, in which I’ll be making/posting proxies of the two newly revealed Spirits (Finder of the Hidden Paths and Many Minds Move as One).
I’ve posted Finder of the Hidden Paths today – the board (front and back) and the cards (front only; back still to come). The link is below, but there’s one problem/issue – I couldn’t see any write up on how the “Isolate” mechanic works, which will make playing Finder a little limited. Any playtesters/others out there who could share the details on “Isolate”?
I’m not personally going to host a UK group buy this time, even if there is an option to do so. The reason being that the shipping cost is only $15 which is about £12. Given that Collect Plus are charging £6.29 for up to 5Kg and will probably be higher in eighteen months time I don’t see any appreciable saving to be made by grouping purchases. You might save a quid or even two but I doubt it’s worth the effort. Paul Watson might want to try arranging a collect-in-person arrangement for Sentinel Days but I’m happy just to go direct this time and not have the hassle of all those trips to the post office.
I’ve got to say though that the lack of freebies is damaging my value perception this time. I’ve never had a problem with full MSRP and high shipping on GTG Kickstarters because the free stuff you get has always been more than worth it and group buys enabled us to turn them into very attractive deals. This time there isn’t much outside of the box and I think it’ll be the first time it’s been financially detrimental to back the KS rather than wait for retail. I’m still going to back because I want to guarantee a copy and boy do I love this game, but I can’t find a suitable retort this time around to the people complaining about value.
And, also, I still haven't had any response or follow up to our Oblivaeon group buy not having shipped and I just don't want to have this responsibility hanging over me again. Even Spiral have no idea where the items are other than somewhere "on the water". Man I love GTG and what they do but clarity and repsonse time on communication is a constant trial.
Full MSRP is likely going to be $79.95 like it is for the core set and the promo pack for this set bought afterwards will at least be $10. Not including anything about shipping but you’re paying $59 for $90+ worth of content. Add on that with the rate of sales of the main game this guarantees you a copy of the expansion and promos when it’s released.
Isolate is a new concept that some of the Jagged Earth powers and a few spirits (like Finder) utilize.
Essentially, it seals off a land and make it inaccessible. Here are the pertinent bits:
Invaders skip all explore actions in Isolated lands (they do not explore into them, and they are not a source of explorers)
For invader pieces, Isolated lands are not considered adjacent to anything… unless you want them to be. So they can’t be gathered/pushed unless you allow it.
Sorry, but Isolate doesn’t prevent blight from cascading.
Oh cool, thanks PWatson :). So does that mean you pledged and I give you the money or do I need to pledge and put a note saying you're paying shipping? I feel like I've done both on different Kickstarters in the past (and the last one would've been Oblivaeon so that was ages ago and I can't remember how that one worked ;)). I'd like to get the token tray thing as well...was tempted by the wooden tokens but some of them I wouldn't be using and it would push the price total up pretty high, so I'll skip those.
Indeed, but I do have to include the shipping and taxes in that calculation as they are direct costs associated with the purchase. The base game over here is currently £58 retail including taxes and shipping but it’s been cheaper, so regardless of MSRP that’s the ballpark figure of acquiring the expansion at retail. Compare that to the £72 Jagged Earth KS will cost with taxes and shipping and it’s tight with the difference between the two being roughly what it would cost to acquire the promos. Previously, GTG KS campaigns were a no-brainer because all the freebies meant that it was definitely a good deal even with as much as $50 shipping added on. This is the first one where backing is not enticing beyond being able to guarantee a copy and not having the hassle of tracking down the promo pack. Which, like I said, I’m happy to pay up front for, I just can’t reasonably tell anybody else what a great deal they will be getting.
We may also have something happen like with the core game, but the currently planned MSRP, based on their GFE from their manufacturer, is $59.95. That said, originally planned MSRP for Spirit Island itself was $49.95 and things had to change about 3-4 months out from release.
Nope. They skip all explore actions, including those that would happen internally due to buildings. A better way to think of it is that for the purposes of the Explore action, that land is removed from the game entirely.
The promo pack has 2 spirits, 1 Adversary and 2 Scenarios, and 9 extra cards. I'm guessing it will be more than $10 at retail. It's still probably borderline costwise if you're in the UK. Would the balance shift if you also want the insert or the tokens?