Villains as heroes

Omnitron X is one of our favorite characters around here. We dig the villain-to-hero thing. Which villains would YOU like to see as heroes?

My favorite idea- Voss takes over Earth, gene-bounding the two types of troops he just can't get anywhere else: celebrity bloggers, and superheroes. Of course, the heros made it easy for them, grouping together to defend major population centers. From her remote hideaway, a wanted woman knows someone has to fight. She may be thought of as a terrorist and a madwoman by most of her fellow Earthlings, but the destiny of her people cannot be stopped by these aliens anymore than they could be by Earth's supposed "sentinels." She leaves her hideout and begins a guerrilla war against the invaders. She becomes: DAWN OF THE RESISTANCE.

from the Dreamer's art we can speculate there eventually be a Thortharian Hero.

I think Ambuscade would make a cool hero; since he's a big game hunter I can easily see him going after, say, Akash'Bhuta.

Though she's not really a villain, I think it would be completely adorable for Dreamer to grow up to be a hero, possibly being trained by Visionary.

Uh… You know she actually is the Visionary, right?

If you didn't know, we'd be happy to share that story with you! :sunglasses:

Isn't she an alternative timeline Visionary, therefore not quite the same person? I know Vanessa goes back in time to save her baby self... but if she changes the past she creates a new timeline, right?

Omnitron is to Omnitron-X as Citizen Dawn is to _________

I have done some Villain vs. Villain games, but they don't work well at all, what to do with Equip destruction and even then there's not a lot of ways to get around each villains methods.

I've been thinking of a villain+hero team vs. two villains scenario but that is a big undertaking.

As far as Villains turn heroes, I'd go with Kismet and La Capitan having the highest chance of turning over a new leaf, where Chariman, Baron Blade, Ambuscade, Dawn, and maybe Plague Rat I could see making temporary alliances with heroes to fight a common enemy.

Apostate.  Once he doesn't have that overzealous Fanatic constantly attacking him for no reason, he'll be free to give up cliche black-hat theatrics and turn into a gritty 80's style Satanist black-metal vigilante, fighting evil megacorps to make the world safe for hot slutty chicks.  \m/ //O\\  \m/

Yes, but the Visionary went back in time to save her past self (and apparently failed, since the Dreamer has powers). I don't remember if it's due to alternate timelines, which is neater, or not, but there are two Vanessa Longs of different ages and skill levels in one place at the same time. Why couldn't she teach her alternate/past self how to use her powers more effectively and less dangerously?

 

EDIT: Sorry, managed to fail to quote the post I was replying to. Somehow.

Expatriette?

Citizen Dawn-X!  (what do I win?)

You win a Helpful Aurora.  It puts all the cards in the trash into play.

Woo hoo!

Well, I believe that the future vanessa was part of a government project that developed her powers, so I don't know if she'd be able to train her younger self if she had an entire government budget and resources.



Also at some point she becomes Dark Visionary who really might not want to "train" anyone, let alone actually continue to be a hero for much longer…

How about a game where you run a villain against a few heroes?

It'd be interesting to try to design a "reverse Sentinels" game, where the hero decks are all automated and the villain has choices every turn.  Actually, that gives me an idea....

I did one game where someone wanted to play the villain so we played against an easy villain but gave the villain a hand of three cards, they would draw up to three then pick which card to play.  It worked really well with Baron Blade.  We didn't let them control the environment deck, but I could see doing that as well, maybe with only a choice of two cards to keep it more random.

I have no idea how you would automate heroes, since there is no targetting in their damage abilities, and targetting the wrong villain target very much at all would lead to certain doom.

I suppose you'd have to rebuild the hero decks somewhat...

Weee we get a visionary promo with hair … that will look like wraith and bring oh so much more confusion into the mix